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| Quote: SmokeyTA "McNamara has already said that there wasn’t a disciplinary issue, he has said that explicitly. The RFL have then told us it’s a personal issue. That’s it. That’s all you have the right to know. Hope its not something serious and that Zak gets the help and support he needs, accept that he is a person before a rugby player and that you don’t have a right to know everything and move on with your life.'"
For once Smokey talks sense I agree its nothing to do with other people well said Smokey
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Because it' is highly speculated that he has been drinking again...
IF he hasn't been drinking again and it genuinely is for other personal issues, say that in the statement. Offer him some protection.'"
But they did
[i"An England Rugby League statement read
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "McNamara has already said that there wasn’t a disciplinary issue, he has said that explicitly. The RFL have then told us it’s a personal issue. That’s it. That’s all you have the right to know. Hope its not something serious and that Zak gets the help and support he needs, accept that he is a person before a rugby player and that you don’t have a right to know everything and move on with your life.'"
Personal issue as in he can't stop drinking and be disciplined and respect his team and country? The two things are not necessarily unrelated.
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| Quote: mark_m "Personal issue as in he can't stop drinking and be disciplined and respect his team and country? The two things are not necessarily unrelated.'"
It isn’t a disciplinary issue. We have been told that
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| This is typical of northerners making a mountain out if a molehill.
Get over it
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It isn’t a disciplinary issue. We have been told that'"
If it was a genuine welfare issue, you would have thought England would have liaised with Leeds and they'd be fully informed, rather than England saying "England Rugby League will work with Zak’s club, Leeds Rhinos, to support him during this period" and then Hetherington saying "Nope. Have no idea what's going on." ( rlhttps://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/rlwc2013-zak-s-decision-a-mystery-leeds-1-6213927rl.
So either it isn't a welfare issue and they're lying or it is a welfare issue and they're handling it irresponsibly. Either way, this last couple of weeks has been a textbook example of how not to manage media, and, for that matter, staff.
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| or Pete Smith spoke to GH before the RFL did.
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| George Riley tweeted yesterday that Hardaker had told him after the game on Saturday that he was ill.
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| "The England statement read: “Due to personal issues, Zak Hardaker is unable to commit to the England Rugby League programme and has informed the England RL management team that he wishes to withdraw from the squad and will not play any further part in Rugby League World Cup 2013.
“No replacement has been called up. England Rugby League will work with Zak’s club, Leeds Rhinos, to support him during this period.
“Zak requests that the media respects his privacy at this time.
“The matter is now closed.”
Everyone should just mind their own business.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen ""The England statement readEveryone should just mind their own business.'"
Exactly. I hope, next time someone on here has some issues, that we have full disclosure to allow a discussion to take place
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| Hope Hardaker's personal issues get ironed out - he's a good player and likeable character, doesn't take himself too seriously but is a very professional rugby player (despite the fact he may have been involved in the post-Italy booze up).
Him leaving is a blow. He was awesome against Samoa, for the Knights, and I wouldn't have been surprised had he played at centre in this tournament. We must pray that Tomkins stays fit now!
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| We have plenty of people on here with issues that are quite clear without full disclosure!
It's a shame for Hardaker. I hope he gets a chance on international stage another time
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen ""The England statement read
Some of the comments and speculation on here is out of order.
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Quote: SmokeyTA "or Pete Smith spoke to GH before the RFL did.'"
Well Brian McDermott, now, still doesn't seem to know what's going on: www.sportsmole.co.uk/rugby-leagu ... 15931.html . So much for "working with Zak's club". Maybe the England media team just say the first thing that comes into their heads.
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Quote: SmokeyTA "or Pete Smith spoke to GH before the RFL did.'"
Well Brian McDermott, now, still doesn't seem to know what's going on: www.sportsmole.co.uk/rugby-leagu ... 15931.html . So much for "working with Zak's club". Maybe the England media team just say the first thing that comes into their heads.
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| Quote: craigizzard "Well Brian McDermott, now, still doesn't seem to know what's going on:
His full quote doesnt quite give the same impression
"I've had a brief chat with him to arrange a quick meeting," he told BBC Sport. "I haven't spoken to him about what's happened yet but it is clearly concerning. We need to find out what has gone on."
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