Sorry pal, ignore my above!

Ha no problem mate. My anti-Rangi Chase stance overtook me for a minute.

England’s involvement in this competition will last till the 23rd of November at least and hopefully the 30th which is 5 weeks from now. In that 5 weeks, we want to see the team building up momentum and play for each other as whatever happens on Saturday the real test will start in the semi finals

McNamara has so many critics on these boards but in this instance he has done everything right. Kicking Hock out was a no-brainer (as he has no brains!) but leaving a senior player like Graham out shows that he means business and you have to be prepared to work hard and act professionally if you want to play for your country. Lose a squads respect and that 5 weeks will see the whole thing unravel

I have to say that McNamara has managed this with real strength as he could easily have played Graham and sent the wrong message to the team

Its ok.I feel the same way.

That said he has a golden chance on Saturday to prove us all wrong.And a few players who would have been carrying the water get a big opportunity to claim the shirt for the tournament.Sometimes things happen for a reason, you never know...

He's playing centre inside the top try scorer in SL, if you look at Charnleys tries this season I bet 90% of them have been put on a plate for him by Goulding, he's been our most improved player by a distance since Wane took over. Im sure Charnley would rather have him playing inside him than Cudjoe.

Surprised people not rallying for Westwood to be out of the 17. After all, 95+% of people on here wanted him hung, drawn and quartered after what he did in the Grand Final.

Steve McNamara imposes a drinking ban on his squad for the duration of the World Cup. After the warm-up game, one of his 'senior' players, along with others, goes out drinking. Clearly a lot of respect for his coach and his ways.

I suspect he will get a bit more respect now that they know they will (minimally) be out of the team or out of the world cup altogether

exactly. Picking Graham this week would have shown him, and the rest of the squad, that there are no rules and you can do whatever you want and still get in the team. Graham will get a chance next week, and the week after, to play his way into the team for the big games.

Brett Ferres is starting and Liam Farrell is on the bench.

I hope he doesn't try the same on Cronk or Thurston what with how it knocked Green off his game. Imagine how well he'd have played with 2 eyes.

Considering the length of time and preparation that has gone into this World Cup, involving the same people, the respect should have already been there.