Will be interesting to see the result of the Wellens Water incident, I'm guessing just a fine for it though.

In his defence, Childs performance was better than Wigans.

In the grand scheme of things that happened in the game this is not even noteworthy.

It did lead directly to a Wigan error that gave Saints good field position, and ball tampering is surely against the rules. May not have had a massive impact, but it is still illegal.

I never said it did.

that is potentially the icing on your "I want to look like a cock" cake

I pointed out that it goes unpunished every week and you said you were more worried about this one. As for paranoia? This thread consists of Saints fans donning their tin foil hats and claiming there was a conspiracy in favour of Wigan. You need to look in the mirror pal.

It's amazing to see how fans see the game so differently and remember only what they want to.

It was not an automatic sending off as there was no contact with the head.

It looked like a deliberately late shoulder charge with impact to the upper back, this caused a visible whiplash (as the torso was thrown forward while the head followed", then the head made contact with the arm of his own player, then (presumably as he was already sparko) he could do nothing to stop his head bouncing on the deck when he fell.

If the contact had been with the head then the head would have gone forward, not back, relative to the body. Which seems pretty conclusive.

If this is the case (and I didn't manage to watch the game) then there needs to be a rule change at the RFL. The post match commission or whatever they need to be called, should be able to discipline players and coaching staff for match official abuse.

This needs to happen across the game and needs to happen quickly otherwise we'll end up like football.

Whether or not the language used was offensive is not the point - the agressive manner needs to be targetted.

When out of interest was the last time a player or coach was banned for match official abuse in RL? I know in RU recently, the Leicester Tigers head coach Richard Cockerill has been banned for 9 matches for swearing at the fourth official.

This is a statement - so that other coaches etc. don't do it.

Why is the RFL not acting in a similar way? It shouldn't be up to the individual referee to complain, it should be seen on camera and actioned. This would be by far the quickest way to clean up the game.

Spot on.

That said, I thought Childs was fairly poor last night. Overly pedantic for some calls, incorrect for others. Saints fans have outlined their grievances - so what about Charnley not being allowed to finish the break after Hampshire dislodged the ball? What about the clear strip late on given as a knock-on? What about Goulding being penalised when his eyes never left the ball? What about Dudson being penalised for trying to dislodge LMS' arm when it's something you see regularly but I've NEVER seen penalised? Perhaps because Saints had a strop?

As for the 'cannonballs' - some fans need to differentiate between that and securing the legs when 2 men have the man held up top. For the amount of complaining Saints did, I'm sure they'd have spat an enormous dummy if they felt cannonballing was taking place. A genuine cannonball tackle is unmistakable, there were none last night.

No, Childs wasn't good for either team, but then neither team was particularly good either. The crux is that Saints were marginally better than a very poor, scrappy and indisciplined Wigan on the night but neither will win anything playing like that.