The only nailed on dead cert places are first place Wigan, last place (if they are still going) Crusaders.

Bazza have you forgotten about the losers who play at the moon surely they will be bottom

1.Wigan
2.Wire
3.Huddersfield
4.Saints
5.Hull KR
6.Leeds
7.Hull
8.Salford
9.Catalan
10.Castleford
11.Crusaders
12.Bradford
13.Wakefield
14.Quins

1. Wigan
2. Huddersfield
3. Warrington
4. St Helens
5. Leeds
6. Hull KR
7. Castleford
8. Hull FC
9. Salford
10. Bradford
11. Catalan
12. Harlequins
13. Wakefield
14. Crusaders

1. Wigin
2. St. Helens
3. Warrington
4. Huddersfield
5. Leeds
6. Hull FC
7. Hull KR
8. Bradford
9. Catalans.
10. Salford
11. Castleford
12. Wakefield
13. Crusaders
14. Harlequins

Wigan to finish top by a distance!

Wigan - Add Hoffman, Lima, Finch, Hock and a fully fit Amos Roberts to the team that won the GF and its all looking good.
Wire - Hodgson massive improvement on Mathers, however they must keep their ageing stars (Briers, Morley etc) fit
Saints - Big changes this year, new ground, new coach, new captain. Lucky for them they got Roby to soften the blow of KC leaving, with the quality additions they should go alright.
Leeds - Having a good squad should still seem them in the Top 4. Not impressed by the new coach though.
Hudds - Very strong, well coached team. Good pack and young fast backs should see them challenge for the top 4
Hull - Similar to Wire, if they can keep there older players fit for the majority of the season, they will be a tough team to beat.
KR - Mason is a good signing if he comes here with the right attitude, gives them more size in the forwards
Salford - Added experianced super league players to there squad and should go alright

agree with most of that but I thought Mathers had a very good season generally with Hodgson being relatively dissappointing for the Giants - and what of the Bulls ?

Spot on. Anyone who watched Wigan last year will tell you of the games we lost we either tuck our foot of the gas or were out muscled in the pack. Like you say with Lima and the man mountain that is Ryan Hoffman, being out muscled won't be a concern.

=#FF00001. Leeds - Still strong all over the park and have good youth coming through.

=#FF00002. Wigan - Will be strong again and could easily win things as long as the new imports settle in well.
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3. Warrington - Good, solid and strong squad.

=#FF00004. Saints - Fantastic pack but will need both half backs to stay fit, playing at Widnes may cause a small disruption.
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5. Hull KR - A good settled squad, if Dobson and Green gel, then who knows! Looking forward to seeing a mature Willie lol
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6. Huddersfield - Strong pack will lead the way for them.
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7. Bradford - It feels like for the first time in a while, the club have a fresh lease of life.

=#FF00008. Hull - Once again a real problem in the halves which seems to have been going on for years now. Berrigan can be key if he is given a full time centre spot but not sure Agar will see it like that. O'Meley has to stay fit as he lead the pack superbly last season.

=#FF00009. Salford - Same as Bradford.

=#FF000010 . Catalan - If they can produce the goods on there own turf then they may climb higher
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11. Castleford - The loss of Shenton and Westerman will hurt, I also think some still question Matterson.
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12. Wakefield - Cant see Kear being able to get something out of this season with the current squad.
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13. Quins - Club dont seem to be going anywhere apart from backwards.

=#FF000014. Celtic - It going to be a long hard season!

Wigan
Warrington
Saints
Huddersfield
Leeds
Hull
Hull KR
Castleford
Bradford
Salford
Catalans
Wakefield
Quins
Crusaders

If it wasn't for the Crusaders being docked points before the season has already started I would have said Quins.