Is that ready for 2011 JB?

nah thats the people that put together wakeys franchise submission last time

One of which scored 4 tries yesterday you may remember

To add to this we have just taken Ambler from Leeds for a season and a young lad from HKR on trial. 5 or 6 of the 18/20's joined the first team squad recently

There was mention on the main site that Quins sales were up on last season-yes it may be small buts its movement in the right direction

why why why?

why do you think, its pretty simple stuff.

just think for a minute and you might get it.

franchising forces clubs to keep improving

so even though hull kr are safe now, hopefully down the track there will be clubs in the champ. putting pressure on them to keep improving

bit like darwins theory of evolution being applied to SL.

survival of the fittest.

1. hull fc > 7000 increase
2. wire > 4000 - 5000 increase
3. hudds > (over time) 6000 increase.

yes, although maybe not for season kick off. Work started this week I believe.

ie Leigh.

Hull KR are a good pro-active club trying to make BIG improvements to their ground which will pay dividends long term. Franchising has kept dross clubs playing in mediocre outdated Stadia in the closed shop known as SL. I'll believe Salford's new Stadium when I see it being built ( not just the Groundworks! ) As for Cas and Wakey, don't make me laugh, two clubs 10 miles apart and they still can't agree a groundshare, does anyone actually believe either will build a new Stadium?? Headingley is a Tip and Falling to bits, Odsal is very very dated and the club and local authority certainly can't fund a new Stadium.
On a more positve note, Saints, Le Cats and Hull KR all making strides forward in updating or building new Stadia.

So you're fully admitting that it took Huddersfield around 15 years to increase their crowds at their new stadium.

without the new ground it wouldnt have happened at all

crowds were under 3000, now up near 7000/ 8000.

thats massive.

all the clubs with old grounds reached their crowd limit and are now treading water ie cas, wakey, salford.

new ground = bigger crowds.

you cant count leeds or bradford as mediocre clubs purely because of their crowds and leeds finances as well. headingly is slowly being improved as well.

and i believe salford are starting constrcution.

on cas and wakey you are spot on

franchising is going to affect one of three clubs,maybe more,isn't it?.
it was always going to be one or more of these clubs wasn't it?.
so how has franchising worked?

bradfords crowds have fallen from 15,000 to 8000 when the form dried up

that what happens in old stadiums, you are just struggling all the time

throw in the maintenance which eats away at a clubs ability to spend money on football areas and you see why a new stadium is the way to go

then theres the fact its more family friendly, and has much better corporate facilities.