We promise to have a better youth structure by the start of the 2012 season, cross my heart...can we come in please?

I'd have thought, judging by your previous posts, that you think the decision will have been made much earlier than that, then justified in June/July. I hope I'm not misrepresenting you.

No , but they already know which club is going down if nobody gets a stadium started , the only way that can change is for the relevant club to start actual building before the other two and hope they dont start building before decision time

The main point is one side (at least) is going down full stop (as at least Widnes meet all criteria). So as they did to justify putting Cru in they will twist any part of your club to suit their agenda for keeping you in or out! If Widnes get in I can't wait to see how much they change are 'adequate' stadium for the 'pro' list. As Leigh saw they just ignored ground as 'not played 'in'' because it suited. They also did their write ups weeks after so they could manipulate them further.

At Widnes SO'C has made sure from day one we have covered ALL areas knowing full well if one was weak they could exploit it. Wakey side to win academy last year could be seen similar? Built to win, not neccesairily to make SL level.

As for during, all SL clubs agreed to it so have less grounds than any for anysirt of action!

It is silly to assume that people did not read what TRB wrote. Perhaps we understand the process and can read what the RFL actually wrote!

The RFL will ask Savills to indicate whether the stadium new builds or developments will be complete by early Feb 2012. If the answer is no then the 'scoring' wil be done on the current facilities and the 'score' will probably be a poor one. If savilles say yes the scoring will be done on the new facilities. Where has there been any suggestion that the applications will be dismissed?

Can you please expand on this?
How are Wakefield any further forward than Salford?

Yes and that is why Savills are going to assess whether a stadium will be fit to use early Feb 2012 for the start of SL. If they have to be ready for SL games in Feb I assumed they would need to be playing some friendlies there by December 2011.

if none of these clubs are ready to go for Feb 2012 they will all score poorly re facilities. This rules out all the 'the stadium is on the way' ' we will have one soon' cr*p that we heard during the last round.

Say Trinity submit in their application that they intend to play their home games for the 2012 season at Oakwell until their new stadium is ready. They will have satisfied the RFL criteria on the stadium front.

Listen, I am more than happy to have a sensible debate with you about this but your 'trolling' record goes before you, especially when the words Wakefield are in anyone's posts!!!

Ok, I might once again live to regret this but I will give you a chance.

You say the the RFL 'will ask Savill's' to indicate whether the stadium new builds will be complete for Feb 2012, well that is not what I understand they have already been asked to look at because I and the RFL can pretty much tell you the answer to that with a fairly high degree of certainty and that would be... none of them!

The RFL are doing there home work and as I have already said I think it highly likely that not all three of them will pull this off and at least one will fall, unfortunately, if they all do pull it off (which is highly unlikley) then it becomes interesting and I can still this going out to a 15 team comp.

But that would be wrong IMO , a few years ago Leigh suggested they would play at the Reebok until improvements were made if we got promotion , we were refused , I understand where you are coming from , just that it isn't what has been promised , playing at Oakwell would seriously reduce Trinity's already somewhat fragile finances

Not nice I know , but that is the way it is

Not really as Wakefiekd at last bids promised a move to a new rugby stadium. So to last min say oh were going to Barnsley wouldn't fit for me. At least Saints were clear about Widnes move if Wajey throw Barnsley cover inbit would just be more desperation again and another unfilled promise on stadium after years of plenty gone by.