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| Quote Fully="Fully"Want to swap positions? Saints fans don't know how good they've had it.'"
See what I mean now when I say they are spoiled? Try supporting Swinton, Coldham, Widnes or any of the team that have been dumped on by Super Duper League and are still fighting today.
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| Quote jonny the leyther="jonny the leyther"See what I mean now when I say they are spoiled? Try supporting Swinton, Coldham, Widnes or any of the team that have been dumped on by Super Duper League and are still fighting today.'"
Lose a few games and the world's going to end. I would love for Cas to have their success and sit where they are in the table now.
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| I'd have a nose bleed if Leigh are ever that good again and i'd jump through hoops to go watching them, I bet you would too Fully if it were Cas.
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| The problem with some Saints fans is that they think that it's their right to be the top side.
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| Quote Teessidewire="Teessidewire"The problem with some Saints fans is that they think that it's their right to be the top side.'"
A lot of fans are like that. I'm sure there are an element of Bradford, Warrington, Wigan and Leeds fans like that. And I'm sure if any other club had a period of dominance such as these, some would just be as expectant. It's the fickle nature of sport, I'm afraid.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"A lot of fans are like that. I'm sure there are an element of Bradford, Warrington, Wigan and Leeds fans like that. And I'm sure if any other club had a period of dominance such as these, some would just be as expectant. It's the fickle nature of sport, I'm afraid.'"
No, no, no. You have misinterpreted what I put. Winning is simply not a big issue to Saints fans.
What is an issue is entertainment, or rather the lack of it.
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| But they're your team, through thick and thin. And you don't go because they don't wazz the ball all over the place like they used to? Turn up and let them know then.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"No, no, no. You have misinterpreted what I put. Winning is simply not a big issue to Saints fans.
What is an issue is entertainment, or rather the lack of it.'"
I'd take a winning team over entertainment. It's alright playing like the Harlem Globetrotters as long as you're clinical enough to convert that play into points. Some teams that play expansive rugby leak points.
And anyway, each coach is going to bring a different attitude to the camp and a different style of play. Your side has probably got more defensive and restricted in play due to the old guard leaving or retiring and younger blood coming in, making it harder to settle down and get used to the system.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"No, no, no. You have misinterpreted what I put. Winning is simply not a big issue to Saints fans.
What is an issue is entertainment, or rather the lack of it.'"
You ought to try living in London my friend if you consider St Helens not to be an entertaining side
If you want to watch Superleage down here all you have is Harlequins

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| Quote jonny the leyther="jonny the leyther"I think Wigan-Wire has sold around 22500 up to now. H&S reduces the capacity for some bizarre reason.'"
its to do with unreserved seating and presumably to stop a last minute scramble for the remaining ones - it reduces capacity by 1500 or so in a 25000 stadium. its the same at hull
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| Yeah I know mate, bit daft if you ask me. If the seats are there, fill them up.
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Club Owner | 17566 | Hull FC |
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| Quote jonny the leyther="jonny the leyther"Yeah I know mate, bit daft if you ask me. If the seats are there, fill them up.'"
its because people arrive bang on kickoff and won't be able to see the odd spare seat in the middle of rows, causing congestion on the stairs.
I think its a good idea, but it could probably cope with only being 5% left empty and not 10%
there are rumours that Hull are to turn the east stand to completely reserved next year anyway, due to high season ticket demand.
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