.................and i'd hazard a guess that it would unlock more BskyB money. It's a long road.

Who cares how many kids theyre producing? Nobody turned out to watch Crusaders in S Wales other than the away fans who made the trip down there. The media was pretty indifferent towards them and they couldnt find the commercial sponsorship and facilities they needed. Just a few of the many reason why, they FAILED in S Wales.

Widnes's money problems were started, in a large part, to a crooked chairman who as we understand it put us a million pounds in debt including illegally using the club to buy and trade 2million pounds worth of merchandise whilst avoiding applicable UK tax regulations. This was followed by an over-spend in an effort to achieve SL status by our previous owners. To compare the two clubs issues is, quite frankly, pathetic.

Lets just get it right , they haven produced anybody yet , what they have done is get existing RU players to play RL , VT rules dictate that only when you bring players through from age 8 can you claim them as your own , so a big well done to your local amatuer Union teams , not the Skorpions

Quote Viking Vengeance="Viking Vengeance"Who cares how many kids theyre producing? Nobody turned out to watch Crusaders in S Wales other than the away fans who made the trip down there. The media was pretty indifferent towards them and they couldnt find the commercial sponsorship and facilities they needed. Just a few of the many reason why, they FAILED in S Wales. '" Who cares how many players theyre producing yeeaahh great come back. Attendances wasnt great but it didnt help they were getting stuffed every week. And they compare reasonably well with these. www.slstats.org/t14/Leigh+Centur ... mmary.html And to those who are claiming it will fail in north Wales www.slstats.org/t45/Crusaders+Ru ... mmary.html

Quote Viking Vengeance="Viking Vengeance"Who cares how many kids theyre producing? Nobody turned out to watch Crusaders in S Wales other than the away fans who made the trip down there. The media was pretty indifferent towards them and they couldnt find the commercial sponsorship and facilities they needed. Just a few of the many reason why, they FAILED in S Wales. '" Who cares how many players theyre producing yeeaahh great come back. Attendances wasnt great but it didnt help they were getting stuffed every week. And they compare reasonably well with these. www.slstats.org/t14/Leigh+Centur ... mmary.html And to those who are claiming it will fail in north Wales www.slstats.org/t45/Crusaders+Ru ... mmary.html

Nice try but thats simply not true. There are loads of clubs and rugby league players throughout south Wales. They are not all simply union converts. Even with the ones that are union converts, so what? They are now successful rugby league players so whats your problem with that?

I dont make the rules , but that is how it is

Quote And to those who are claiming it will fail in north Wales www.slstats.org/t45/Crusaders+Ru ... mmary.html'" And tell us how many of the crowd against Leeds, Hull and Wigan were home supporters. Go on, tell us.... i cant wait.

Quote And to those who are claiming it will fail in north Wales www.slstats.org/t45/Crusaders+Ru ... mmary.html'" And tell us how many of the crowd against Leeds, Hull and Wigan were home supporters. Go on, tell us.... i cant wait.

Vast majority were home fans. Are you seriously suggesting leeds took 10000 away supporters???? About 1500 of that crowd were away fans.

Why are you bothering ?

FFS! What bloody planet are you on man?

making the championship final is important as to apply for SL a champ. club needs to make a final

Explain