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| Quote tb="tb"WTF? Are you seriously saying that when you buy a season ticket – or pass - at Hull, you're only counted as attending one game, no matter how many you actually go to? Because I don't believe for one minute that that's the case.
Not sure how many season passes Hull has sold, but I believe it's in the throusands – and I don't believe the Hull posted attendance drops by Xthousand season ticket holders from the second home game on.,'"
I suspect he means that if you get a season pass, but don't go to one of the games for whatever reason, then you won't be counted in the attendance figures at that game rather than being counted as attending every game irrespective of if you go or not.
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| Quote Neil HFC="Neil HFC"I suspect he means that if you get a season pass, but don't go to one of the games for whatever reason, then you won't be counted in the attendance figures at that game rather than being counted as attending every game irrespective of if you go or not.'"
That (the idea not the post) makes no sense, surely fire, health and safety regs mean all stadia have to count attendance as accurately as possible?
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| Quote Neil HFC="Neil HFC"I suspect he means that if you get a season pass, but don't go to one of the games for whatever reason, then you won't be counted in the attendance figures at that game rather than being counted as attending every game irrespective of if you go or not.'"
Of course you're not counted if you're not there. Why would you be?
It is an "attendance" figure". It isn't an "attendance + season ticket holders" figure.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Of course you're not counted if you're not there. Why would you be?
It is an "attendance" figure". It isn't an "attendance + season ticket holders" figure.'"
You'd think so wouldn't you but apparently not
Quote Ferocious Aardvark="BalearicHullFan"Nope. Not at modern stadiums.'"
clueless 
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Of course you're not counted if you're not there. Why would you be?
It is an "attendance" figure". It isn't an "attendance + season ticket holders" figure.'"
you wouldn't be. Which is what I said.
(and technically, it would be attendance + non attending season ticket holders  )
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| I dont know if what he implied was true or not, I don't know enough about how those things work but whooosh you lot missed his point completely.
Clueless? thats you big boy, considering what he said has absolutely nothing to do with what youre on about
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| Quote BalearicHullFan="BalearicHullFan"Nope. Not at modern stadiums.'"
Come on. we are waiting for the cutting edge way of counting an attendance...
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| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"Come on. we are waiting for the cutting edge way of counting an attendance...'"
And we will wait a good while 
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| ok really modern stadiums have computerised counters which lock each gate when its allocation has gone, there results in total are sent to a central database for crowd control reasons and official figures.
however......super league attendance figures, god knows, i heard at one point these kids tickets that are a tenner was so each club could include each one in every away gane
so for example if wakey has sold 300 its 300 every time we play away regardless of whether they go.
strangley if thats true its a very easy way of hitting the 8000 target.
and also if kids get freebies to be part of entertainment etc do they count?
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| Quote chapster="chapster"ok really modern stadiums have computerised counters which lock each gate when its allocation has gone, there results in total are sent to a central database for crowd control reasons and official figures.
however......super league attendance figures, god knows, i heard at one point these kids tickets that are a tenner was so each club could include each one in every away gane
so for example if wakey has sold 300 its 300 every time we play away regardless of whether they go.
strangley if thats true its a very easy way of hitting the 8000 target.
and also if kids get freebies to be part of entertainment etc do they count?'"
Thats just madness, running a business and declaring to the taxman a higher income than you actually have??
And freebies do count its people through the door, not what they paid that counts.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"Thats just madness, running a business and declaring to the taxman a higher income than you actually have??
And freebies do count its people through the door, not what they paid that counts.'"
no your missing the point
income has nothing to do with attendances, its a balance sheet item on the clubs accounts. far easier to fiddle the kids entry to parent than the attnedance, especially if you used shared gates.
i am merely asking what the real criteria for the super league franchise 8000 attendance target includes / excludes.
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| Quote chapster="chapster"
so for example if wakey has sold 300 its 300 every time we play away regardless of whether they go.'"
No they don't, attendance must be an accurate figure of who is in the ground, this is a H&S requirement.
Quote chapster="chapster"and also if kids get freebies to be part of entertainment etc do they count?'"
Yes.
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