Quote Barnacle Bill="Barnacle Bill"Apparently it means that if Leeds do something it's ok if Rovers do the same thing the sky will fall down. '"
Yet you havent been able to find an example of Leeds doing it.
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Or perhaps in the context of 15 years of SL a club in their fourth season is responsible for the poor perfromances of the national team for the whole of those 15 years and beyond.'"
nope,another ridiculous straw man argument from Bill, keep digging
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Or Rovers should sign English players from other teams but if those players then represent England no credit can be due to Rovers because they didn't have them as an 18 year old.'"
well done, its almost sinking in, if you sign fully fledged first team players they dont count as players you have developed. By all means you should be signing them anyway, you just didnt develop them
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Rovers should give opportunities to English players but when they clearly do (more than say Leeds) then because it's Rovers they haven't given them enough opportunities, even if that player is injured.
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You mean like if they dont play because you have a highly paid NZ centre playing ahead of them who has just signed a new two year contract you cant justify the few games they played for you by using Leeds as an example when they didnt give him experience because they instead gave experience to two other young English players, yes that is correct.
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When Rovers give an opportunity to a young English player and he grabs that opportunity with both hands and becomes a regular first team player that doesn't count, because it's Rovers.'"
like who? Liam Welham? you developed Welham where have i argued differently?
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Any mitigating circumstances for Rovers not producing the volumes of English club trained players (yet) that Leeds, Saints, Huddersfield etc do can be ignored, because it's Rovers.
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but you dont have to only play English players you develop do you? you could out and sign other English players to cover for your failings in developing players.
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Signing 30 something players with NRL/Rep experience is fine but signing untried Aussies (with thier best playing years ahead of them) is a safe option and to be frowned on'"
Yes, if we are going abroad we should get the best, if we have to give an opportunity to an untried nobody we should give it to a young English untried nobody.
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, even though SmokeyTA argues that untried English players from the lower leagues can offer something, which is exactly the same principle but obviously a completely different context, because it's Rovers.'"
well its not a different context or different because its Hull Kingston Australia, its different because they are going out and giving an opportunity to an untried Australian nobody and not and untried English nobody. In fact they have released an English player taken the opportunity from him and given it to an Australian at exactly the same stage of his development, for some reason this for some reason apparantly an example of Hull Kingston Australias commitment to excellence, Wierd.
Keep digging Bill
