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| Quote: snowie "Yet you give the thumbs up to a forum moderator in doing so
How bazaar'"
Bizarre indeed.
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| If the Bulls, or any team for that matter are wangled in, there is no need for fans to worry about relegation. A license will be given.
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| Quote: Donnyman "Mark Sawyer disagrees [i“We’re close to finalising Bradford’s Super League application and returning to Odsal is a crucial part of it. “We’ve been in meaningful talks with Bradford Council and the Rugby Football League about being back there early in 2021, which would fall nicely for the start of next season. A deal is getting closer and would involve spending a lot of money to refurbish the stadium and meet all safety requirements. “Bradford is a big city, the Bulls have a huge fanbase, a great history and a strong academy, so we should be in Super League". [/i
So it appears the Odsal problem has a solution now, and the opportunity is there for the fanbase to return in numbers. The council now seem supportive, people are putting money in and I saw something about Chalmers not chasing the money he is owed. Whilst all that that may not quite be enough to create a winning team, it certainly sounds like enough to re-launch the club in Superleague.
If they are re-admitted then we will have to see what the fan reaction is and how many fans give them their backing, then we need to see what the reaction of Bradford Business is and how much support they may give to what may be Bradford's premier sports club. If they don't manage 11th. spot or better (they will surely feel that they can easily do better than a Salford minus Watson, and heavily in debt) then I'd guess if everyone is in it for the long haul they will just aim to win the Championship 2022.
With respect I see more than enough for them to give this a go in the here and now. Delay for whatever reason (you don't give any reason) can only dampen the growing enthusiastic support getting behind the club, and allegedly that includes some top Superleague clubs. Bulls must not look a gift horse in the mouth, and I am sure they won't either.......
....And finally a return of the mighty Bulls splashed all over the national sporting media will nicely condemn the stuff about North America (especially McDermotts moaning and groaning) to be yesterdays news and today's fish and chip paper....'"
If Odsal is the future of SL let’s just give the Govt it’s money back and pack up.
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| Quote: wire-quin "If Odsal is the future of SL let’s just give the Govt it’s money back and pack up.'"
Well if that is just Bull bait then lets see who you may annoy with that comment......
The grounds are not exclusively the future of course, it's people playing and watching that's the future. Last time I went to Odsal was Bradford.v.Leeds with a 10,000 crowd and it was a fantastic day all round. The Bradford.v.Leeds academy game is also keenly contested
I've also been to the modern keepmoat stadium with a few hundred in for the game between two clubs who don't have much of an amateur/junior scene at all and don't produce players....... .
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| Quote: snowie "its not been decided yet who is coming up so how is it an own goal Toronto had a chance of revealing its worth but chose to keep it to himself now that had to be a own goal'"
Is there no end to your witty retorts cutting your opponent to the quick
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| Quote: Ste100Centurions "Wouldn't Nigel Wood & family being major shareholders in Bradford be part of the problem ? A former RFL & IRLF Chief being involved in a club that his former colleagues & friends potentially promote ahead of more 'qualified' applicants would only add to the calls of potential corruption. '"
Steady Ste, "corruption" is a hard word.......
Anyway one major criteria for a place in SL is how well you have done in the Championship. All applicants but Bradford have achieved at least 4th. But the criteria is that you only have to have achieved at least sixth. Bradford did achieve that Another is you must be solvent. And that must be since the start of 2018. Erm Bradford were last insolvent in 2017. Then a third criteria is market size with crowds and social media interest being the definition. Bulls score the best on that.
One criteria that is missing from criteria used to evaluate clubs in 2011 is if your club is more than 20 miles away from other clubs, you would score points . Bradford are of course closer than this to several clubs
The criteria include other things, but each criteria passed doesn't give you one point, the criteria will be "weighted", In that some things are more important than others. However no weightings are published.
At a guess things like (1) finishing place in the championship, (2)solvency and (3) good crowds could score two points each or "if necessary" three points each
Matt Shaw was kind enough to set out how the selection process will work and he basically suggested the panel will start with the answer and word back from that to get the scores.
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| Quote: Donnyman "Steady Ste, "corruption" is a hard word.......
Anyway one major criteria for a place in SL is how well you have done in the Championship. All applicants but Bradford have achieved at least 4th. But the criteria is that you only have to have achieved at least sixth. Bradford did achieve that
One of the poster's on here had suggested that the criteria would be rigged to fit the chosen club, leaving the independent panel with no other alternative other than to rubber stamp the application
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| So the bulls it is.
Sentellins will be looking over their shoulder, I smell a title challenge.
They'll bulldozer their way in, then bully their way to the top.
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The normally hateful Matthew Shaw actually says it how it is in this column. The only bit he missed *in the design of getting Bradford back in Super League* is the criteria of having a minimum ground capacity of 5,000, while Dewsbury's Tetley's Stadium has a capacity of 5,100.
In almost any place you look, the criteria is designed to score Bradford the most points.
Remember how much per year the RFL are losing on an empty bomb crater called Odsal !!!
https://www.totalrl.com/bringing-back-t ... er-league/
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The normally hateful Matthew Shaw actually says it how it is in this column. The only bit he missed *in the design of getting Bradford back in Super League* is the criteria of having a minimum ground capacity of 5,000, while Dewsbury's Tetley's Stadium has a capacity of 5,100.
In almost any place you look, the criteria is designed to score Bradford the most points.
Remember how much per year the RFL are losing on an empty bomb crater called Odsal !!!
https://www.totalrl.com/bringing-back-t ... er-league/
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| Bradford are arguably the biggest name of all those that have applied.
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| Quote: Ste100Centurions "The normally hateful Matthew Shaw actually says it how it is in this column. The only bit he missed *in the design of getting Bradford back in Super League* is the criteria of having a minimum ground capacity of 5,000, while Dewsbury's Tetley's Stadium has a capacity of 5,100.
In almost any place you look, the criteria is designed to score Bradford the most points.
Remember how much per year the RFL are losing on an empty bomb crater called Odsal !!!
I can't figure out how Bradford will be able to afford it firstly the rent it they are given a peppercorn rate you will hear the words fowl,
any repairs to the stadium, a group of us a belle vue spent months to get safety levels up within the ground as the owner didn't do any of them as we had no option, from what I understand we could do anything to the stadium but it wasn't owned by the club so was done to bare minimum. If repairs are done by the RFL again you will the words fowl
Tuff situation for them as I would love to see them back at some point but there are still some bitter fans
My choice would be Featherstone but then I'm only living in the past, anyway must go walk the whippet
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "One of the poster's on here had suggested that the criteria would be rigged to fit the chosen club, leaving the independent panel with no other alternative other than to rubber stamp the application
Since the "Independent" panel led totally unnecessarily by a judge was announced Elstone has said in an interview that the club that is chosen to join Superleque needs to be the one that benefits the TV broadcaster the most..
Again it's not hard to work out that is easily Bradford and could even be Leigh whose fans can take up SKY subs, but Toulouse it certainly ain't...So if Toulouse aren't wanted then are Les Catalans wanted as we go forward to a new TV deal 2022?
I've nowt against these fantastic French clubs but their days may be numbered, if they don't add value to the TV deal, getting the best deal from an English broadcaster can't happen if you supply them an Anglo-French League.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Bradford are arguably the biggest name of all those that have applied.'"
Good point and a name that gets the TV dishes sold and viewers tuning into their games against such as Leeds and Saints (remember the Chris Joynt last seconds try against the Bulls) . Can't say it enough that the future is about keeping SKY happy with the content, not so called "expansion"........
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| Quote: snowie "I can't figure out how Bradford will be able to afford it firstly the rent it they are given a peppercorn rate you will hear the words fowl, If repairs are done by the RFL again you will the words fowl
Tuff situation for them as I would love to see them back at some point but there are still some bitter fans
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Tuff on whoever wants to moan about it whether they are so called "expansion" fans or fans of small English clubs who believe that the first consideration in any decision of this type is "Fairness". They have no vote.
The first consideration as we try to get SKY to sign us up again has to be deliver what they want. That's not anything other than the biggest 12 names in English Rugby league to attract maximum subs/dishes for our broadcast partners without whom we are dead. As for the second consideration there isn't one anymore........
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| Quote: Donnyman "Tuff on whoever wants to moan about it whether they are so called "expansion" fans or fans of small English clubs who believe that the first consideration in any decision of this type is "Fairness". '"
Yet SLE & the RFL are trying to hoodwink the entire RL population into believing just that, it is a fair & transparent process, without favour or malice, while the evidence suggests exactly the opposite that, at best it is flawed & disingenuous & at worst is the single biggest conspiracy to deceive & fraudulent.
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