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Quote: Catpisstastic "so he hasn't played leeds, and he didn't play saints in the cup and do a decent job?'"
If he was any good he would of left both Gidley and Wellens on there back sides watching him score a try in that Saints game.

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Quote: McClennan "He needs to be exposed so that we can see that he's not another Calderwood.'"
He isn't as good as Calderwood. He may be on a par in the future, if he improves a lot.

I've got nothing against the guy and hope he does well, what I am against is the Warrington fans claiming he's the next Offiah and all the hype surrounding what is at the moment a distinctly below average player.

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Penny has pace and balance and the ability to score tries even in the tightest spots, something you either have or you don't, the reason people liken him to offiah. He does seem reasonable in the air (i believe he had a bit of a mare last night under the bomb however) however his one on one tackling is very poor but that is something that can be improved and the lad has only played a handfull of games. Unfortunately for penny, times have changed since offiah's day as (generally) wingers are bigger these days.
He looks like he has the makings of o great 'old fashioned' winger, he'll need to be in a decent side that can protect him to allow him to show off his talents.

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You lot are all jealous!

13 in 12 games says it all.

So what do you want from a winger???

At the moment you have your not too fast but solid, bulked up/good under the high ball type winger (Meli, Tupou etc)

Then theres the speedstars like Penny, White , Gardner etc.

Totally different types of player they all have weaknesses.

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Quote: 2nd Rate Aussie "You lot are all jealous!

13 in 12 games says it all.

So what do you want from a winger???

At the moment you have your not too fast but solid, bulked up/good under the high ball type winger (Meli, Tupou etc)

Then theres the speedstars like Penny, White , Gardner etc.

Totally different types of player they all have weaknesses.'"


meli isnt good under the high ball, the blokes a donkey

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Quote: 2nd Rate Aussie "You lot are all jealous!

13 in 12 games says it all.

So what do you want from a winger???

At the moment you have your not too fast but solid, bulked up/good under the high ball type winger (Meli, Tupou etc)

Then theres the speedstars like Penny, White , Gardner etc.

Totally different types of player they all have weaknesses.'"


How many has he been responsible for letting in, in those games. I made it 4 last night down to Penny?

He has pace and balance, but otherwise is a rag doll at the moment. He needs a lot of coaching to make him a decent player.

Returning the ball he is rubbish as well, due to his lack of size. He was thrown around like a rag doll last night by Saints backs, and was invariably dragged back for negative yards.

In three years time he may be a world beater, but I suspect he will suffer the fate of Richie Barnett, who was found out then binned.

Worryingly for Penny, Warrington is not the place were he will pick up good habits. The coaching regime there is poor, with few youngsters brought on in recent years.

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Quote: The Chair Maker "Worryingly for Penny, Warrington is not the place were he will pick up good habits. The coaching regime there is poor, with few youngsters brought on in recent years.'"


Yeah he should go to saints as they are the only team in the country who can nurture any talent to its full potential icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Saints fans are fast becoming the most loathsome fans in the league and have the same attitude as wigan in the 90's.

We decided after watching 2 very poor CC finals over the last couple of years that if saints get there again next year they'll be 10 of us not going.

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Quote: McClennan "He needs to be exposed so that we can see that he's not another Calderwood.'"


now come on I know 5 and a half inches is not what you would expect from the old fashioned stereotype but he can certainly do the business with it from what ive heard

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Quote: sally cinnamon "now come on I know 5 and a half inches is not what you would expect from the old fashioned stereotype but he can certainly do the business with it from what ive heard'"
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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Found wanting? Hardly the first player with a dozen games under there belt to make errors. '"


I know that. I've not condemned him to be rubbish forever.

Quote: getdownmonkeyman "so he hasn't played leeds, and he didn't play saints in the cup and do a decent job?'"


He did but this is the first time that Saints have played towards him and he looked creaky to say the least.

Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Yeah he should go to saints as they are the only team in the country who can nurture any talent to its full potential
That's not what he said. He said that Cullen isn't good enough as a coach to bring him through to any sort of high standard and I would reckon that there'd be a few Wire fans that would agree with that.

It's not about him joining Saints it's about him getting good coaching.

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26 pages of utter tripe.

No matter who you are, if he was at your club, you wouldn't be able to get your c-ock out fast enough.

He was at fault for 4 tries on Friday, deary me, no he wasn't that's just a lie.

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Quote: The_Wolfman "Yeah he should go to saints as they are the only team in the country who can nurture any talent to its full potential
Neither I or the Chair Maker who have both been critical of Cullen's coaching ability here have never said that only at Saints would he do well in fact I was chatting to a Warrington fan after the match on Friday who said very much the same thing.
Think you are showing your Anti Saints bias here as does the comment about not going to the Challenge Cup Final again if Saints are there
Two things to say about this 1) Good it will mean more tickets available for true RL Fans (or even for Saints fans icon_smile.gif )
and 2 ) does this include IF (a big IF I know icon_smile.gif ) Warrington manage to get to a Final against Saints ?

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Quote: john_wilshires_physio "26 pages of utter tripe.

No matter who you are, if he was at your club, you wouldn't be able to get your c-ock out fast enough.

He was at fault for 4 tries on Friday, deary me, no he wasn't that's just a lie.'"


No he was just at fault for 3.

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Quote: john_wilshires_physio "26 pages of utter tripe.

No matter who you are, if he was at your club, you wouldn't be able to get your c-ock out fast enough.

He was at fault for 4 tries on Friday, deary me, no he wasn't that's just a lie.'"


Penny was at fault for all of them, it was his fault Joe Lydon dropped that goal at Maine Road as well. At leas he didn't make 6 errors this week.

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Quote: Alonso Jackson "He isn't as good as Calderwood. He may be on a par in the future, if he improves a lot.

I've got nothing against the guy and hope he does well, what I am against is the Warrington fans claiming he's the next Offiah and all the hype surrounding what is at the moment a distinctly below average player.'"


hang about evil homo, i think you'll find that most of the ott hype came from matches that were televised against saints and leeds when wire fans were at the games, only to return to find several threads banging on about how good he was.

We're proud of him and his potential but don't get believe you're own bull, aside from the wire forum, we haven't said a lot(apart from mark on the salford board)

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