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| I would imagine that championship sides will play 4 home games ( 2 SL teams & 2 Champ teams ) & 3 away games ( 1 SL team 2 Champ teams ) leaving SL clubs with 3 home games ( 2 SL teams & 1 Champ team ) and 4 away games ( 2 SL teams & 2 Champ teams ) but how the fixtures will run or pan out is nothing to do with understanding the structure of how the leagues will be formed b4 & after the splits.
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| Quote: mapleyther "Not idiotic at all. The biggest difference between Leigh and Bradford in terms of playing strength is quite simply well over a decade of Sky money. Bradford have squandered the money and won nothing for many a year - they are going backwards in all areas. Naturally they have a bigger fan base than Leigh (they have a much bigger catchment area for starters), but they have a bigger fan base than the likes of Wakefield, Cas, Salford, London, Hudds and probably one or two others - so what?
If they have more fans they will be able to generate more income off of them....it doesn't give them the right to a guaranteed fixed Sky handout every year - they will get it if they earn it on the pitch.
Leigh will at least have a more level playing field than has been the case for a long time. We'll see how we go...no doubt that most of the time the SL clubs will emerge from that middle 8 and back into the top 12, but every once in a while they won't, especially if they run into financial problems. There is now a trapdoor that is slightly ajar. I think that has to be a good thing.'"
your just proving my point. bradford have much more of a chance of providing something to super league than leigh, halifax or featherstone. As it stands the salary cap is far to low and its never going to be raised if the clubs replacing the bottom clubs are worse which they are.
What gives any championship club the right to receive sky money at all? they have provided nothing to sky or super league.
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| And what have Bradford provided the game over the last two years? Headlines?
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| Quote: littlerich "And what have Bradford provided the game over the last two years? Headlines?'"
fans and viewing figures no doubt about it. If they had decent management and a decent Loan to actually get them out of the mess they are in they would provide a hell of a lot more to super league as well. The difference is all these championship clubs that keep getting mentioned have great management and they should be applauded for that they are coping in very difficult circumstances but will they have ways to be come financially stable and spend up to the full cap? no because they don't have the fan base. We don't need more mediocre teams coming to super league for more blow out scores.
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| also who chooses which championship clubs get extra money to finance the raise salary cap? because surely they can't afford to fund all of the teams.
So bottom clubs in super league will have to wait for 22 games before they have a chance of realistically beating teams because they can't afford to spend all that money and run this risk of being relegated. Not to mention the drop in attendance because the first lot of games mean nothing and the play off away support won't be good enough.
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Good, you can explain it to me then.
Purely theoretically, say the bottom four clubs in SL are Cas, Bradford, Widnes & Catalan and the top four Championship clubs are Fev, Fax, Sheffield & Batley./quote]
This is part of the misconception of the new structure that the championship fans are getting excited. It is much more likely it will be the two SL clubs who are relegated this year. So realistically that leaves 2 maybe 3 spaces for the championship clubs to get into. They then have to play against 4 Full time SL teams and two other teams who were in SL a year a go.
I'll give it a 2 years when they realise how far out of depth they are or have been playing in the 3rd division to be crowned champions (with no promotion) before they are calling for changes to make it a level playing field.
Some fans have said only way they will get in is if clubs love up financially from going up and down between te split. Wow progress.
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| So it seems nothing has changed. Featherstone can't be mentioned in the same sentence as Bradford.
Embrace the changes, be positive about it. More games have more meaning. Bigger crowds, more buzz, excitement.
Whatever the change was going to be, some clubs wouldn't be happy, some would.
Super League clubs shouldn't have any problems against Championship teams, seeing as they are so superior.
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| As long as people bang on about SL club's superiority I'll keep throwing basket cases like Bradford, Wakefield, Crusaders and Salford back into the mix. It's the failure of SL clubs that has brought about these changes. Get over yoursves.
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| Quote: littlerich "As long as people bang on about SL club's superiority I'll keep throwing basket cases like Bradford, Wakefield, Crusaders and Salford back into the mix. It's the failure of SL clubs that has brought about these changes. Get over yoursves.'"
how about you just reply to my answer to your question. crusaders have absolutely nothing to do with super league any more if anything its just another example of a team with no fan base going broke trying to keep up with super league clubs.
EDIT** also a weak administration of the game has allowed miss management of super league clubs.
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| Can anyone answer the follwing.
Has anything official been announced regarding the central Sky monies distribution for SL and Championship Clubs. What will the salary cap be in the Championship?
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| Quote: littlerich "As long as people bang on about SL club's superiority I'll keep throwing basket cases like Bradford, Wakefield, Crusaders and Salford back into the mix. It's the failure of SL clubs that has brought about these changes. Get over yoursves.'"
+1.
I don't why you bother on here, waste of time and energy. Maybe see you at the game tomorrow, come down and say hello. I'll be pitchside taking photos, but will be taking mascots on the pitch prior to k/o - so spottable.
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| Quote: dubairl "how about you just reply to my answer to your question. crusaders have absolutely nothing to do with super league any more if anything its just another example of a team with no fan base going broke trying to keep up with super league clubs.
EDIT** also a weak administration of the game has allowed miss management of super league clubs.'"
Like London Broncos? Are they super? Take off your little private members tie and get a dose of reality. If it's so ing great why the changes????
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| Quote: littlerich "Like London Broncos? Are they super? Take off your little private members tie and get a dose of reality. If it's so loving great why the changes????'"
No but they have an owner who is willing to back the club as much as possible and foot the bill along the way and the potential to be the largest club in super league (will never happen i know but its a nice carrot for the RFL). But your avoiding my previous post.
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| What part? The fan base? No worse than bottom half of SL. Only Castleford and Widnes got decent crowds in lower league. Or is it the "ifs" in the Bradford bit? If ifs and ands were pots and pans.
I wouldn't be sat here having this conversation with you if half the teams in SL lived up to their billing.
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| Quote: littlerich "What part? The fan base? No worse than bottom half of SL. Only Castleford and Widnes got decent crowds in lower league. Or is it the "ifs" in the Bradford bit? If ifs and ands were pots and pans.
I wouldn't be sat here having this conversation with you if half the teams in SL lived up to their billing.'"
no i agree but rather than cutting their losses the RFL insists on giving those failed clubs a fair chance against lower opposition. Other than London broncos which teams from the championship have a larger average attendance?
I have no problem with championship clubs but what i do have a problem with is the reliance on RFL funding and slim chances of the improving the league in terms of playing quality and attendance. tell the truth will having championship clubs in super league provide another strong team or just a mediocre team?
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