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Quote: Donnyman "How can I be "anti French" against clubs playing English and antipodean players in an English league? What exactly is French about them I'm not going to get into an argument over whether I believe your anti French or not, your posts on that score will endorse that you certainly are, the one simple question I asked you which you've managed to swerve both times is, can you please back up your statement that both Catalans and Toulouse are invited guests only into the two top English leagues, a simple link will do, thanks in anticipation.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "And yet, Catalan were expected to fulfil their fixtures in England.'"


Your at it again pretending Catalans are French. The teams mainly anglo-Aussie and nomadic so it was easy for them to play here

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Quote: happyjack " can you please back up your statement that both Catalans and Toulouse are invited guests only into the two top English leagues.'"


I was following the game when Cats were admitted in 2006 and when SL bosses went to France to deny Toulouse entry to SL at that time because they didn't have the players or TV deal...Both clubs regularly termed as guests, Les Catalans didn't vote on the last TV deal and have not voted on many SL issues conceding they are guests.

14 years since Catalans came in as guests. Then you pop up screaming for "proof" at me. Come back when you have proof of these clubs having full membership of Superleague........

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Quote: Donnyman "]I was following the game when Cats were admitted in 2006 ]and when SL bosses went to France to deny Toulouse entry to SL at that time because they didn't have the players or TV deal...Both clubs regularly termed as guests, Les Catalans didn't vote on the last TV deal and have not voted on many SL issues conceding they are guests.

14 years since Catalans came in as guests. Then you pop up screaming for "proof" at me. Come back when you have proof of these clubs having full membership of Superleague........'"

So it's just hearsay then icon_lol.gif 14 years further on and still in super league says they are a little bit more than just guests, that's to any rugby fan that is, not sure how you can can describe my posts as screaming for proof when all I am guilty of is finding your accusations about them a touch tiresome and have asked you for a link which you clearly don't have, or if you do your not wanting to share it with anybody.

As for me having proof that these clubs have full membership, I simply don't have any, like most people on here without an agenda on the subject I'm working on the assumption that they have the same status as the rest and don't find it an issue unlike you, if I'm wrong then I'm happy to be corrected but you don't seem to be able to provide the necessary proof, so in my best non screaming mode once again I'm popping up and asking for proof and not he said/she said, apologies in advance for any embarrassment I may have caused you.

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Quote: happyjack ", a simple link will do, thanks in anticipation.'"


I wouldnt hold your breath. He has made hundreds of claims over the years without a shred of evidence a010.gif

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Quote: happyjack "Apart from Catalans fulfilling they're fixtures over here the rest is not strictly true, the UK government were dealing with the situation admirably whereas the French could be described as incompetent at best.'"


That's really quite funny

Last year the UK government were making a right balls of dealing with covid but, they have been saved by the vaccine rollout.
I would agree that France isn't in great shape right now, just as the UK wasn't last year, which is the point that I was trying to make.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "That's really quite funny

Last year the UK government were making a right balls of dealing with covid but, they have been saved by the vaccine rollout.
I would agree that France isn't in great shape right now, just as the UK wasn't last year, which is the point that I was trying to make.'"

Whatever point you were trying to make it did not come across very clearly, btw my reference to the UK government was in the context of your post regarding the French fulfilling they're fixtures and was in no way intended to derail the thread by talking politics, which seems that you are happy to mix the two.

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Quote: happyjack "Whatever point you were trying to make it did not come across very clearly, btw my reference to the UK government was in the context of your post regarding the French fulfilling they're fixtures and was in no way intended to derail the thread by talking politics, which seems that you are happy to mix the two.'"


My comment was more to do with people suggesting that it is right for London not to travel to France (to play Toulouse) and yet, it was ok for Catalan to travel to England last season.
There seems to be some huge double standards from some of the "anti French RL" fans on here.

Having said that, the decision to "force" some clubs to travel, while others are exempt seems crazy.
It may have been borne out of good intentions but, it makes a total mockery of the competition.

If the part time clubs are exempt from travelling because they are not contenders for promotion, that is just crazy.
Even if the decision is based around the pandemic, there needs to be a different solution found.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "My comment was more to do with people suggesting that it is right for London not to travel to France (to play Toulouse) and yet, it was ok for Catalan to travel to England last season.
There seems to be some huge double standards from some of the "anti French RL" fans on here.

Having said that, the decision to "force" some clubs to travel, while others are exempt seems crazy.
It may have been borne out of good intentions but, it makes a total mockery of the competition.

If the part time clubs are exempt from travelling because they are not contenders for promotion, that is just crazy.
Even if the decision is based around the pandemic, there needs to be a different solution found.'"


Part time players,being quarantined on return,would miss work.
I believe the owner of London Broncos seems this to be 4 days of work.
Full time players will not lose holidays or money.
Of course,with the play offs possibly including Toulouse,playing a home game,further missed work days may result for part time players.

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Quote: happyjack "So it's just hearsay then
Anyone outside of the UK is a guest.

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What is the actual "criteria" for 'Full Time ' anyway, how does the RFL decide who's FT and who's PT, if the Broncos employed someone "Part-Time' would that change their status, or if Batley employed one 'full timer' would it change theirs, is it the bulk of staff, the bulk of the squad or just the first team?

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Quote: atomic "Anyone outside of the UK is a guest.'"

The UK was part of the European Union with everything it entails, that includes I think EU legislation and all it entails, you may be right personally as I've told our friend from Doncaster I neither know nor care, I would just like him to furnish proof that they are just guests in our leagues, as he is reluctant to do so perhaps you would like to help him out a touch by showing us a link where this is so.

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Quote: happyjack "The UK was part of the European Union with everything it entails, that includes I think EU legislation and all it entails, you may be right personally as I've told our friend from Doncaster I neither know nor care, I would just like him to furnish proof that they are just guests in our leagues, as he is reluctant to do so perhaps you would like to help him out a touch by showing us a link where this is so.'"


Who are you? Are you really posting in good faith?

Several "contributors" to this site don't post in good faith as they prefer to wind people up, where they demand "proof" of everything said, yet never produce a shred of "evidence" themselves. If you do not want to take it in good faith that the French clubs are guests, if you do not want to look up the fact Les Catalans didn't vote on this last TV deal as they were guests then don't. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Donnyman "Who are you? Are you really posting in good faith?

Several "contributors" to this site don't post in good faith as they prefer to wind people up, where they demand "proof" of everything said, yet never produce a shred of "evidence" themselves. If you do not want to take it in good faith that the French clubs are guests, if you do not want to look up the fact Les Catalans didn't vote on this last TV deal as they were guests then don't. You asking me if I'm posting in good faith, wow, accusations from a poster who for the last 12 month who couldn't produce a sentence with out the name Toronto or Lenagan or Perez in it, man you've got some nerve icon_lol.gif
I wouldn't know where to look for verification or reference to Catalan being a guest, I just assumed that they had the same status as everybody else in super league, but I imagined that you would want to clarify it and give you a little bit of credibility by posting a link to it, but once again as per usual you've failed come up with nothing but huff and puff, same old eh.

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Quote: Donnyman "Who are you? Are you really posting in good faith?

Several "contributors" to this site don't post in good faith as they prefer to wind people up, where they demand "proof" of everything said, yet never produce a shred of "evidence" themselves. If you do not want to take it in good faith that the French clubs are guests, if you do not want to look up the fact Les Catalans didn't vote on this last TV deal as they were guests then don't.
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