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| Quote: My Mate Ronnie "30,057 came through the turnstiles to watch day one at Anfield, 26,812 were in attendance today for an overall total of 56,869.
The crowd at Anfield this weekend is still significantly down on the 64,319 who attended St James’ Park last year.
The crowd is the lowest since the 2010 event in Edinburgh
2007 in Cardiff.
Day one
Just to give balance to the attendance figures, how many of the Magic events have been made up of derby fixtures and how many with more "random" games.
If you put a Hull derby and Wigan v Saints into the fixtures, plus Leeds v Cas, the attendance figures would increase significantly, regardless of where the event is staged.
It's time for the RFL to seriously think what Magic should be about.
Where should it be played, which types of games should feature and what do we expect to come afterwards.
The concept of "spreading the game to new areas" seems a great reason to stage Magic but, we've gone a long way from this.
Liverpool and Manchester are not exactly breaking any new ground and having the event so close to the heartlands, whilst making it easier for fans to attend, actually takes all the "magic" away.
There was something really different when we played down in Cardiff and Newcastle but, Liverpool and Manchester
Maybe we should scrap Magic as part of the league and maybe have one of the Challenge Cup rounds as an "on the road" event or, be really ambitious and go for Dublin or Paris.
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| The concept of magic has died. It was about the rugby- it seems reading the comments on here most are bothered about where the pubs are
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| 56k over two days isn't great. I expect next year will be Derby games to boost the crowd.
Serious questions need to be asked about magic weekend?
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| we already have enough derbies they lose their magic no pun intended if we have them all the time, keep them to twice a season!
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| Quote: GIANTSRL "we already have enough derbies they lose their magic no pun intended if we have them all the time, keep them to twice a season!'"
You can still have them twice a season if you move magic to Easter and just play the games Friday Monday but only one game for all teams just have to find a ground we’re it might be possible
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| The thing is, I’ve never know many scousers want to watch rugby league. They’re only interested in football and fighting sports.
I’d say the Geordies are more open minded, in fact 3 were sat in front of me on Saturday in the Kop.
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| It may not have made much difference to the attendance but it doesn't help when there is a full programme of Championship games that weekend especially on Sunday.
I know it's meant to be a Super League event but that shouldn't preclude fans from other clubs.
Again it wouldn't help coming the weekend after the Summer Bash but it wouldn't be difficult in future to make them further apart.
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| As a Liverpool fan I knew that magic wouldn't work. Anfield is not suited for the full weekend and there is nothing to entertain fans outside the stadium.
I genuinely think it would have been much better to stay in Newcastle. As other posters have said. Find a venue. Tie it in for 5 years and push to make it better year upon year. It doesn't feel like that would be too difficult.
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| So what are super league going to do to see what happened here? Market research to see why people didn't go this year? Market research to see where people want to go?
Or do nothing and just go to the highest bidder?
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| Quote: infamous grouse "It may not have made much difference to the attendance but it doesn't help when there is a full programme of Championship games that weekend especially on Sunday.
I know it's meant to be a Super League event but that shouldn't preclude fans from other clubs.
Again it wouldn't help coming the weekend after the Summer Bash but it wouldn't be difficult in future to make them further apart.'"
Spot on. It’s daft. Any time a big RL event is held there shouldn’t be any lower league or even amateur games on the same day as it.
There’s only likely to be a max of 8 RL events in the year including internationals:
World Club Challenge
Magic Weekend
Cup Semi Finals
Cup Final
Grand Final
3x Internationals
It isn’t impossible to ensure that when those events occur they are the only RL activities taking place.
Then introduce a system whereby all clubs, including amateur clubs, can profit from selling tickets to those events and the RFL help organise/get discounts on travel and accommodation then I think we’d see a lot better uptake.
Time the whole sport started pulling in the direction and we mobilise the entire sport rather than just dumping all the responsibility on a few clubs who make these events, sometimes with only very little notice.
We also need certainty. None of this moving Magic Weekend or Internationals around constantly. Tell us it’s going to be at Anfield for 5 years, then after 3 reassess and announce another 5 year deal etc. Same for internationals.
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| Quote: Him "Spot on. It’s daft. Any time a big RL event is held there shouldn’t be any lower league or even amateur games on the same day as it.
There’s only likely to be a max of 8 RL events in the year including internationals
Should all matches be cancelled the week before too for the Big Bash or will we be categorising 'events'?
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| Quote: wire-quin "Should all matches be cancelled the week before too for the Big Bash or will we be categorising 'events'?'"
It depends how much effort RL wants to put into the Summer Bash. Personally I wouldn’t because there’s always going to be limited support for it and it would be somewhat of the tail wagging the dog.
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| Quote: wire-quin " Should all matches be cancelled the week before too for the Big Bash or will we be categorising 'events'?
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Quote: wire-quin "It depends how much effort RL wants to put into the Summer Bash. Personally I wouldn’t because there’s always going to be limited support for it and it would be somewhat of the tail wagging the dog.'"
The viewing figures for the Leigh v Widnes Summer Bash game aren't bad though are they? rlHererl
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| Quote: Cokey "
The viewing figures for the Leigh v Widnes Summer Bash game aren't bad though are they? rlHererl'"
No they’re not bad but they don’t class as a major event that we should halt the rest of the sport for.
Although it’s useful to point out that there were no SL games on that day and it’s one of maybe only 2 or 3 times in the season that Leigh and Widnes will be on TV.
Again, we don’t want the tail wagging the dog.
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