Waiting 2 minute for a decision that could be made in 2 seconds?

This isn't a like for like comparison.
The big games at the end of season are included in the annual averages but the to date 2015 figures don't show them yet.
So it's an indicator but it doesn't show a reduction yet.

Quote William Eve="William Eve"*source = www.barb.co.uk (Weekly> Top 10s) 2007: 7,262k/44 = 165k average 2008: 7,552k/48 = 157k average 2009: 8,555k/56 = 153k average 2010: 9,590k/60 = 160k average 2011: 9,138k/56 = 163k average 2012: 10,975k/65= 169k average 2013: 9,698k/63 = 154k average 2014: 6,754k/50 = 135k average =#FF00002015: 4,241k/37 = 114k average <----- down by over 15% [u2014[/u Thurs: 1,886k/15 = 126k average Fri: 3,179k/20 = 159k average Sat: 1,373k/13 = 106k average Sun: 316k/2 = 158k average ----------------------------------------- TOTAL: 6,754k/50 = 135k average ----------------------------------------- [u2015[/u Thurs: 1,517k/14 = 108k average <----- down by 14% Fri: 2,204k/16 = 137k average <----- down by 14% Sat: 450k/6 = 75k average <----- down by 29% Mon: 70k/1 = 70k average ------------------------------------------ TOTAL: 4,241K/37 = 114k average <----- down by over 15% ------------------------------------------ Moonie Magic 2014: 832k/6 = 139k average Moonie Magic 2015: 768k/6 = 128k average <----- down by 8% As there appears to be no thread on SL attendances, I'll assume they are down also. You're welcome.'" What do you expect - the quality on the field has descended to such a level that true apathy has set in. Add to that the awful commentary and a serious review is required. Wakefield have shown "Every minute matters" is complete b0ll0cks. Hopefully the games after the break will yield greater intensity and competitiveness. The standards are the moment are truly dire only surpassed by the dismal presentation of the Sky team.

Quote William Eve="William Eve"*source = www.barb.co.uk (Weekly> Top 10s) 2007: 7,262k/44 = 165k average 2008: 7,552k/48 = 157k average 2009: 8,555k/56 = 153k average 2010: 9,590k/60 = 160k average 2011: 9,138k/56 = 163k average 2012: 10,975k/65= 169k average 2013: 9,698k/63 = 154k average 2014: 6,754k/50 = 135k average =#FF00002015: 4,241k/37 = 114k average <----- down by over 15% [u2014[/u Thurs: 1,886k/15 = 126k average Fri: 3,179k/20 = 159k average Sat: 1,373k/13 = 106k average Sun: 316k/2 = 158k average ----------------------------------------- TOTAL: 6,754k/50 = 135k average ----------------------------------------- [u2015[/u Thurs: 1,517k/14 = 108k average <----- down by 14% Fri: 2,204k/16 = 137k average <----- down by 14% Sat: 450k/6 = 75k average <----- down by 29% Mon: 70k/1 = 70k average ------------------------------------------ TOTAL: 4,241K/37 = 114k average <----- down by over 15% ------------------------------------------ Moonie Magic 2014: 832k/6 = 139k average Moonie Magic 2015: 768k/6 = 128k average <----- down by 8% As there appears to be no thread on SL attendances, I'll assume they are down also. You're welcome.'" What do you expect - the quality on the field has descended to such a level that true apathy has set in. Add to that the awful commentary and a serious review is required. Wakefield have shown "Every minute matters" is complete b0ll0cks. Hopefully the games after the break will yield greater intensity and competitiveness. The standards are the moment are truly dire only surpassed by the dismal presentation of the Sky team.

Let's not forget as well that people are turning away from sky in their droves. BT are hitting them hard with the champions league and general sports package and a lot of people want top class fibre optic internet now, something which sky can't currently offer - they can only offer about 40gb atm.

I don't think the level of quality has dropped overall over the years, if you look back over many years of SL and look past the top 4 clubs.

What has changed is the style the game is played in. You watch a game and it's so heavily centred around how slowly a team can slow the PTB down and spoiling tactics used to do that. People should watch some games from the 00's and watch and compare the tackles/PTB's then to stuff we have today. I'm think Brian Carney is on to something with the reduction of interchanging and the positive effect it'll have on all this 3 man tackles/spoiling tactics.

As for every minute matters, we'll just because Wakey threw the towel in doesnt mean it's been a failure or isn't true. Only at the end of the split and at the end of the season will you know what last minute try helped you/cost you what spot.

I agree the Sky presentation needs a big kick up the backside. Seems like they're going through the motions and Wells and Carney the only ones looking passionate about what they're doing. A clearing out/freshening up of presenters/presentation would be welcomed by just about everyone.

The standard has definitely taken a dip - the quality of the basic skills like passing, catching and kicking are not what they were. You cannot take all the best players out i.e. the NRL players and expect the standards not to be affected.

We have reduced the interchanges from 12 to 10 and the wrestle has got worse. We have more players in the tackle but we don't the halves and three quarters to exploit the extra space.

The every minute counts is no different to any other season if we take your maxim of how you determine its relevance.

What we see is more conservative play and less enterprise simply because we haven't got the quality of player to use individual brilliance to decide games. Oh for a Danny Buderus, Jamie Lyon, Brad Godden, Greg Bird, Stacey Jones, Trent Barrett etc.

Were Wigan AS A TEAM at their best during the Trent Barrett years? Catalans with Stacey Jones? Leeds during Buderus' spell? No.

I watch team sports for team performances, not individual performances.

If you think that changing the league format to a system which will probably confuse the casual viewer, and reducing the amount of teams in the elite competition would spark an increase in viewing figures, your sadly mistaken. I'm not so surprised that viewing figures are down - the poor referring displays and the awful commentary no doubt played a part as well as BT becoming a more attractive option to Sky.

I'm also willing to bet that viewing figures will decrease next year and the year after.

Not sure about live attendances though, but I doubt there has been a positive change in the the decreasing trend.

I've recently moved and didn't take sky got VM instead and I can't say I miss watching the SL I'd much rather watch NRL on premier sports much more entertaining and much better commentary, not as if the games have gotten worse I don't think but you know who's going to win the matches which get shown very rare for an upset to happen but when you look at the NRL Penrith who do finished in the top 4 last year are now in 9th and Canterbury and manly are further down manly are bottom it seems much more open between the teams where SL is a bit Boeing and predictable now I think. Coupled with the high price and sky some have mentions then it's really not worth it for some.

Leeds with Buderus won the GF not sure what more you want when watching a team same goes for Saints with Lyon they actually won the double with Lyon in the team.

Barrett was the best player in SL during his time here so again not sure what more you want? Are you saying you would rather watch Ian kirke in a good Leeds side than Danny Buderus in a less good one?

droves you say? Away you say?

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Hmmmm.......

Has that just seriously been written by the same guy who described both '11 and '12 GF wins as "papering over cracks" and had zero interest in us winning the CC last year? That 2011 Leeds season we were floundering around 7th/8th spot at this point in the season, this year we are 1st. Did you enjoy/think that was better simply because you got to watch Buderus play in an under performing team?



No I'm saying exactly what I wrote (funny that you always struggle to comprehend that and think I'm saying something else). I don't watch just because of one or two individuals, I watch team performances in a team sport.