Keep Carney & Wells & bin the rest, Start looking around other sports for a good comantator. Who says you have to be an expert in the sport? Eddie cetainly has got away with it for years. We could always look to some of the local radio stations Craig Murdoch on Humberside might work but at least try somthing as a lot of us are getting fed up with the same old formular.

i actually like cummings, he is there primarily to explain or give his version on calls that might not seem to be straightforward, the problem is, Eddie, in particular, asks him about everything he thinks is slightly contentious.
if he is just asked to clarify, from an officials POV why a particular penalty was given when it's not clear cut then it's fine, he usually gives a straight honest answer, but they try and involve him in debates and arguments which you feel he is uncomfortable with, i find it interesting sometimes when he explains certain rulings and decisions but without all the hysterics going on.

as for the rest, i agree about "tez" as passionate as he is he is mundane and rather cliched, "baz" on the other hand is quite insightful sometimes without overdoing it ala cullen, he also throws the odd witty remark in, but terry and barry together is like listening to 2 mates having banter in a pub.
Wells and Carney are superb and they should be the faces and voices of RL on SKY

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Yes spot on!!
They never stop and think how flippin patronising it sounds,flogging the worn out slogan. This is the whole thrust of this thread like we are all dense and have to be taught rote fashion, and just in case we didn't get it the first time rugby league "the greatest game".By the way it's Rugby Crowe' Sky and Eddie sold leagues birthright to Russel who flew in specially in his copter just for us.Remember Richard Branson fleeting love affair with league makes me cringe,personally I couldn't give a chuff about maximus Rugby league is not judged by its 'a'list celebs or the sky psychophants who turned it into the crowe club championship,it's judged by its 'a'game.God I cringe at the obsequious antics of sky.

Yes, I totally agree abut Carney and Wells and I have a gut feeling they will be surreptitiously moved upstairs step by step in a painless coup d'etat send Eddie and Stevo into the fields of elysium.
There is something about sport commentators especially league that has to have this ubiquitous parochial bl00dy need to quip,be jocular,aka Barry macs red hall revised and as you said about kear but the rest do it as well anecdote -a-thon.
It is infuriating and annoying while data,Eddie and whoever have a tedious in laugh ignorant of the thousands of sky viewers.

Despite what everyone's says, Russel Crowe is one of the biggest film stars off all time, and the fact he loves our game and shouts about it is a good thing, and the fact he snubbed the oscars for RL.

Surprised Eddie never mentioned it.

And as an result, nine million listeners on Radio 2 heard Chris Evans talk about the game this morning. That's the first time I have ever heard RL mentioned on the radio unprompted or outside of the sports bulletin.

I like the Sky team and know a lot of others who do. But there's no point me expanding on that as I'll only be shouted down by those who can't see past their own preferences.

What do you like about them, out of interest? The way Eddie rambles on and on about 'controversial' decisions that weren't in the least bit controversial, or picks up on some small point of interest and talks about it incessantly for the rest of the match? The fact that they employ 'pundits' whose sole contribution is to yell out "shot!" (McDermott and O'Connor), or to make some bizarre and supposedly insightful comment that almost always turns out to be complete nonsense (Clarke)? The whole presentation is like something from an alternate universe ATM, and I'm someone who has defended the commentary in the past.

Wow so what, oh yeah the kudos is gonna reinvigorate rugby league. This the very thing I'm on about, like league is desperate for any scrap of public exposure to give it prestige.wow he snubbed the Oscars, shall we nominate him for special accolade for Nobel sport ambassador.?

I listen to 5 live quite a bit at the minute and I hear them mention it nearly every day outside the bulletin.

Have you heard his accent in Robin Hood?

3 Oscar Nominations when he was flavour of the month and he won one....the wrong one by the way as A beautiful mind was a far better performance from him than Maximus as agreed by BAFTA and the Golden Globes.. He doesn't feature on the list of top 20 "income" wise in films over the years, none of his movies feature in the top 50 grossing films of all time and he no longer commands major roles (water diviner is a GALLIPOLI film...nothing like clipping the ticket 100 years on ). He was a major star for less than a decade......but Daniel Day Lewis or Jack Nicholson he isn't....both have 3 oscars. He isn't even close to being Richard Burton either......7 nominations, and no statue.

I like his films....I love his passion for Rugby League and Souths, but seriously "biggest of all time?

For goodness sake GF, stop it, he said "one of the biggest of all time", which the fact that everyone knows who he is kind of proves the point!

One minute your bemoaning the lack of PR, then the one filmstar who gets us that comes along and you slate him, get a grip!

I'm sure Mr Crowe is very sorry for not being big enough or famous enough for you, but I doubt it keeps him awake at night!

They are awful. I can't believe many viewers thunk they are satisfactory. Like most of us, it seems, I have no prob with Carney and Wells, I reckon they do a decent job. But the wittering away in commentary and pointless 'banter' with Cummins... I lose the will to live. And on RC and publicity for the game, yes, we need all we can get.

I always argue that most people (and I mean, literally, 'most' people) don't understand the difference between league and union, or even appreciate that they are two separate sports. So we need all the help we can get. And when RC appears on the Jonathan Ross Show in a Rabbitohs shirt, as he did, I remember, a few years ago, that's good for the game.

I know about One Direction. That doesn't mean they are fit to lick the boots of a great many bands that have gone before them. Russell Crowe is a well known star, but he is by no means "one of the biggest film stars of all time" as was claimed.
The first film of his to appear on the all time top grossing list is Gladiator, in at 161. Quote: CrusaderPete "

I don't bemoan it... I point out why we don't get the exposure some believe we should.

Quote: CrusaderPete "then the one filmstar who gets us that comes along and you slate him, get a grip!'"

I never slated him. I said he wasn't one of the biggest of all time and he isn't.

Quote: CrusaderPete "I'm sure Mr Crowe is very sorry for not being big enough or famous enough for you, but I doubt it keeps him awake at night!'"

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Lol, could you name one-direction though?