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Quote: gutterfax "100%, positively and absolutely spot on.......
This. Leigh had around 2200 fans for a run of years, them hit their problems and had a pre season of no preparation, no season ticket sales and our crowds tumbled. Now we can't get those fans back.
Rather than trying to sign Sam Tomkins and Rangi Chase they should take a hit on ticket prices and get bums on seats.

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Quote: wire quin "But don't HKR bring 2K to each away game.'"


What 2 Kids ? icon_wink.gif
And they looked a bit old , like Angus Young without the Guitar ...
KR have a great away support, love their club and support them when the matches are played at a logical time

Any credibility this topic might have had evaporated with your affiliation.

The new CEO is under no illusion as to the task ahead of him to rebuild the image of the club & market it effectively to the Salford & Manchester conurbation , and the emphasis is on the pitch as much as the facilities, but I digress for this isn't a topic worthy of actual common sense .
I think most True RL fans would wish us well and look forward to Salford being a much more competitive operation in the future

personally I would have held back until after Friday when London's massive away support causes havoc with our road & parking arrangements .

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "whoa, dont be having a go at Salford's poor crowd, there has to be valid accepted reasons why it was that low, your not talking about Huddersfield now
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Quote: middleman "

personally I would have held back until after Friday when London's massive away support causes havoc with our road & parking arrangements .'"


can we leave the meter running?

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Quote: wrencat1873 "But Huddersfield are one of the BIG boys now
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Quote: GIANT DAZ "whoa, dont be having a go at Salford's poor crowd, there has to be valid accepted reasons why it was that low, your not talking about Huddersfield now

in all seriousness though, it seems new stadium syndrome has escaped the public of Salford and the surrounding areas which is a shame cos i always liked the Willows and thought their club would really take off after the move......was it a case of the stadium came too late and the club missed the boat or is there genuinely no interest ?.'"


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Quote: wire quin "But don't HKR bring 2K to each away game.'"



Far be it from me to say something positive about our neighbours but their travelling support (and ours) is as good as any in the league and is certainly better than yours.

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Quote: wire quin "With crowds of less than 2000 (particularly against the might of HKR) and being in the bottom couple they just don't deserve to be in the League

Get rid of them now.'"


Rattled Much? There are extenuating circumstances as to why the crowd was low. Yes it was disappointingly low but given the (lack of) pre-season, three defeats in a row of 40+ scores amongst other things. It's disappointing but not surprising.

The club is going through a massive upheaval at the moment, good things are happening.

So enjoy your little troll moment we are a team where the only direction is up.

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Quote: gutterfax "JESUS loving WEPT.... If you think £30k every fortnight is a sum SL clubs can afford to sniff at, you're in cloud cuckoo land. Especially when you think that adds up to almost £400k a season. That's a couple of players' wages. Yes, clubs have a responsibility to fill their own stadiums. I don't believe I said otherwise. But that's a little difficult when you're asking fans to travel from France (or London) every other week.

London is the club I feel the least for. It's a forced entity with no tradition or history to speak of, no foundations in any community, a relatively non-existent fan base and a squad of journeymen. When most other teams play one another, you have two communities and generations of fans with vested interests and a rivalry built on decades of past games and memories. Yes, London has had a few rare moments in the limelight, but nothing to really shout about.

And what about the fans? I go to a game primarily for the game itself, the event and the social element - but I also go to get a buzz off the atmosphere, enjoy the rivalry, the noise, the songs, etc. When London and Catalans come to town there's none of that. The atmosphere is flat - in fact Wigan even close the North Stand. The more I attend these flat games the more I question whether I want to pay for petrol, a couple of tickets and refreshments for such a non-event and increasingly I don't.

I've always been pro-London whilst being fervently against shoving more forced and groundless teams into SL in the name of expansion. Unfortunately year on year I'm increasingly looking at London and wondering, "what's the point?" - and I can't find an answer.

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Quote: Cronus "If you think £30k every fortnight is a sum SL clubs can afford to sniff at, you're in cloud cuckoo land. Especially when you think that adds up to almost £400k a season. That's a couple of players' wages. Yes, clubs have a responsibility to fill their own stadiums. I don't believe I said otherwise. But that's a little difficult when you're asking fans to travel from France (or London) every other week.
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Why are fans travelling from London or France to fill thier home grounds?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Why are fans travelling from London or France to fill thier home grounds?'"

Don't be deliberately obtuse, you understand the point. Gutterfax is correct when he says clubs have a responsibility to fill their stadiums, but filling stadiums is made more difficult with no visiting fans. In addition, these flat games can also turn home fans off.

No, clubs shouldn't rely on away support and no, it's not the entire argument, but it's part of it.

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Im not being obtuse your argument isnt making sense. Even if a club doesnt bring away fans. That club only plays one home game against every other club. So each club would only be effected once a year. So that £400k number isnt relevant to anything.

Thats one of the reasons clubs shouldnt rely on away fans, they are unpredictable and out of their control and each one only visits once a year.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Im not being obtuse your argument isnt making sense. Even if a club doesnt bring away fans. That club only plays one home game against every other club. So each club would only be effected once a year. So that £400k number isnt relevant to anything.

Thats one of the reasons clubs shouldnt rely on away fans, they are unpredictable and out of their control and each one only visits once a year.'"

Simply making the point that away fans provide valuable income. Or will you find something about that to argue about?

And it's 2 clubs, so twice a year.

No wonder you've had 3 broken jaws.

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Quote: Cronus "Simply making the point that away fans provide valuable income. Or will you find something about that to argue about?

And it's 2 clubs, so twice a year.

No wonder you've had 3 broken jaws.'"

All income is valuable, there just isn’t a whole lot of it from away fans going to clubs. An ambitious estimate of £60k over the season (for clubs who aren’t smart enough to market these games better) per club isn’t something we really need as a deciding factor in the structure of our game.

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