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| Well done lads it took me three goes but you all came round in the end , any drastic change to the format will just make a mockery of the whole competition , it is a relatively simple knock out cup , and should remain so
Yes as I suggested ages back , both teams should play to the lower teams quota rules , and the SL clubs should sell tickets to their fans at half price , all of that money going to the lower club , they would however still get their 50 percent of the tickets sold to the lower clubs fans , not much I'll admit , but if the same rules applied to round 3 as well
It is highly unlikely that we will ever get the Challenge cup back to where it was , the SL GF has taken premier place within the sport , similar has happened in football with less importance given to the two domestic cups than was previously
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"I agree it needs to be scheduled in a better way to give it more respect. To stop the cricket scores it might be worthwhile to restrict the super league overseas players to 3 only, similar to the championship 1 and 2 quota.
The 4th round free tickets needs to be scrapped, again to put money into the championship 1 and 2 clubs.
It's all super league top heavy, the RFL have lost some of there traditional values.'"
The Championship quota is 1 , not sure on Championship 1 , it used to be 2
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| but teams have been thrashing each other since this game was invented...why change it now?
It wasn't that long ago Warrington were being SLAUGHTERED by the likes of Saints, Bradford and Leeds in the League.
Its a cup competition...and all that matters is getting to the final..if your team isn't good enough to win it or get to the final then tough....get better.
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| The way to improve the standing of the CC is to somehow include it in the franchise criteria.
I don't know if things are the same today but back in the 1980s because of winning bonuses etc if your team didn't at least reach the final you lost money as a club. This didn't matter then because we didn't have strict financial criteria to stick to and a trip to Wembley was the season's showpiece, arguably on a par with winning the league.
Now because of the SL licensing/franchise system what matters to a club is SL money and the CC is becoming a costly distraction.
If you awarded a licensing point, for example a Championship club reaching the quarter-finals or a SL club reaching the final then there would be added incentive for the bean counters to ensure their club did well in the cup. As things stand we could see this years CC final winners fail to gain a SL franchise and be relegated to the Championship, which is clearly bonkers.
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| Quote ExiledTiger="ExiledTiger"The way to improve the standing of the CC is to somehow include it in the franchise criteria.
I don't know if things are the same today but back in the 1980s because of winning bonuses etc if your team didn't at least reach the final you lost money as a club. This didn't matter then because we didn't have strict financial criteria to stick to and a trip to Wembley was the season's showpiece, arguably on a par with winning the league.
Now because of the SL licensing/franchise system what matters to a club is SL money and the CC is becoming a costly distraction.
If you awarded a licensing point, for example a Championship club reaching the quarter-finals or a SL club reaching the final then there would be added incentive for the bean counters to ensure their club did well in the cup. As things stand we could see this years CC final winners fail to gain a SL franchise and be relegated to the Championship, which is clearly bonkers.'"
No , franchising is clearly bonkers , you are seriously suggesting that a SL licence should be potentially down to the luck of the Challenge cup draw , it's bad enough that the NRC draw plays a part , but at least that is against same league opposition
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"I agree it needs to be scheduled in a better way to give it more respect. To stop the cricket scores it might be worthwhile to restrict the super league overseas players to 3 only, similar to the championship 1 and 2 quota.
The 4th round free tickets needs to be scrapped, again to put money into the championship 1 and 2 clubs.
=#0000FFIt's all super league top heavy, the RFL have lost some of there traditional values.'"
I dare to suggest ALL!!!!
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"No , franchising is clearly bonkers , you are seriously suggesting that a SL licence should be potentially down to the luck of the Challenge cup draw , it's bad enough that the NRC draw plays a part , but at least that is against same league opposition'"
First I am no fan of franchising, but it seems here to stay.
Second I suggested that a Championship club could achieve a point without having to progress as far in the comp as a SL club because clearly they are at a disadvantage wrt SL sides and reaching the quarters is a significant achievement.
Third, there's always an element of luck in sport, but with 3 years between franchise applications its 3 chances to gain the point. Your argument seems to be that a good CC run should recieve no recognition whatsoever.
Fourth its one point amongst many of the franchise criteria. I would have thought adding another point representing on-field rather than off-field performance would be welcome.
Fifth, it was merely a suggestion for discussion, calm down dear.
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| Quote ExiledTiger="ExiledTiger"First I am no fan of franchising, but it seems here to stay.
Second I suggested that a Championship club could achieve a point without having to progress as far in the comp as a SL club because clearly they are at a disadvantage wrt SL sides and reaching the quarters is a significant achievement.
Third, there's always an element of luck in sport, but with 3 years between franchise applications its 3 chances to gain the point. Your argument seems to be that a good CC run should recieve no recognition whatsoever.
Fourth its one point amongst many of the franchise criteria. I would have thought adding another point representing on-field rather than off-field performance would be welcome.
Fifth, it was merely a suggestion for discussion, calm down dear.'"
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug":D ok David'"
No worries. We're all RL fans here at No.10 you know.
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| Any radio links online for the Saints Fev game?
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| Wow! the crowd at odsal...
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| Has anyone gone to Bradford then?
Embarrassing crowd from here.
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