but as you just said they only get a "cut" of that $75k. Do you know how big a cut? I am guessing that the money Monday night Football is worth (and will be worth) is far greater in their NR grants than a cut of $75k.

ps Given we have seen two crowds on a sunny Sunday afternoon that are very low it seems that time or day matters little in actual attendance and opposition and own teams form matter far greater. Anybody got stats on the actual crowd difference for Monday night games compared to corresponding fixtures played on another day?

no MNF watch the value of TV rights fall

only a fool would really believe richardson is genuine

he is just pushing for more money from the nrl for games

this is where actual knowledge of RL in australia helps

And Goldberg too?

You have said NRL CEOs talk bullshıt. That's not very pro RL is it?

Actual knowledge of RL in Oz means people know that people at NRL really don't like playing on a Monday. You on the otherhand, sit in front of the telly and pontificate and suggest people are fools.


Agree about future potential TV revenue and MNF.

Don't take 75k literally. That's based on Dally's imaginary 3,000 and hose people paying $25 each.

I said the stadia get a cut of the overall ticketing and obviously other monies re: refreshments etc.



I too said that the new TV deal will cover what teams lose on MNF. But that doesn't stop people losing money as CEOs have pointed out this season, and previously.

with channel 10 to bid for monday night football the value of these games will go through the roof

its a great time for TV and always gets fantastic ratings

more exposure on Free to air tv will see ratings for these games double or tripple

fox will be paying a lot more to keep these games

i hope 10 gets them myself

the additional exposure will be fantastic

I don't disagree with you nor dispute that Dally. I'm concerned for the current state of clubs and their finances. Teams dread MNF. Even taking that into the future, MNF will always be dreaded as it is a lesser income to them even in a future comp with more money and compo for it. You can't but help understand their greed surely?

Ok just had a look at Sth's and Dogs Monday nights. Last season Sth's only played two Monday games. One they got 30,100 against Dogs so clearly no problem there. Second game was against NQ and got 9,700. Corresponding fixture in previous seasons (2008 Sunday afternoon 9,800, 2007 Sunday afternoon 10,000) no difference.

Bulldogs only played one Monday night game in 2010
Bulldogs v Penrith Monday 13,800 (2009 Friday night 14,000, 2008 Saturday 10,200) no difference

So there you go for all Richardsons and Goldbergs whinging A) they very rarley play Monday night (once a season) and B) the crowds are not effected against corresponding fixtures from previous seasons on other days.

yeah the telegraph article never compared like fixtures against one another

they took the average of friday night crowds, sat night crowds, sun crowds and monday crowds

good point

I understand your point JB. But they still lose money, that's their main concern. As would every club that plays on a Monday. No club likes playing on a Monday. What more can I add?

Hang on, no they don't! I've just shown that the two clubs complaining only played one or two games on a Monday and the crowds were no different than if they had played those teams on a different day so how do they lose money? The FACTS show that they are not losing money on attendances. Corporates? Maybe but I wouldn;t have thought it would be too hard to get companies to come to the footy for a meal and drinks straight from work rather than dragging execs out on a weekend. Then they get $40k plus the value of Monday nights in their NRL grants. How are they losing money?????

The article I showed quoted Richo complaining about the Souths v Dragons game, you supplied attendances to different opponents at different times.

[i"The Rabbitohs chief executive, who is leading a groundswell of club complaints against Monday night football, has estimated the round six match against the Dragons will cost Souths $205,000 in potential earnings from ticket, corporate and merchandise sales."[/i

and Greenberg was also taling about a fixture you didn't chose to compare either

[iAnd Bulldogs boss Todd Greenberg said his club had already lost as much as $300,000 in ticket sales by having the opening round game against the Tigers on a Monday night instead of Sunday afternoon.[/i


However, there is clearly some relevance in your post re opponents on different days to show Richo. Maybe you should email him your findings. Maybe you and Dally are proving that NRL clubs lie.


Many clubs play on different mondays. Many don't like playing on Mondays. It seems I can't stress that enough to you.

even if clubs lose out hosting games :

1. the nrl gives money to clubs to offset this ie i think 20k per game.
2. all clubs share it around
3. value of MNF means higher TV money which clubs get

take out MNF TV rights and clubs income goes down ....far more than the $50,000 or so each club loses from hosting 2 of these games

dont know why there is a debate here

richardson doesnt want MNF to end, hes not stupid

he is pushing gallop for more money

thats all this is about

Source?

Ok lets look at those specific games shall we

Dogs v Wests Rd1 Monday night this season Att 26,737
Previous seasons: 2010 Fri night 11,837 2009 Sun afternoon 25,622

Sths V St;s Rd6 Monday night this season Att 22,771
Previous seasons: 2010 Fri night 22,238 2009 Sat afternoon 19,218

So there you go, once again the FACTS show that playing those fixtures on a Monday night not only did not cause them to lose money but actually brought in BIGGER crowds! Damn these things called Facts for making CEO's look like they are clearly peddling other agendas!

There isnt, at least not about MNF, you and JB have just ended it.


Yep, the remarks were aimed at the folks negotiating the TV rights deal imho. If the Networks want it, they're gonna have to pay for it.