Hope he gets an extension, main thing keeping us smiling on the East side of the city at the moment!

Ah so the game has NOTHING to do with the players AT ALL.

Thank you for enlightening me.

There I was thinking that RL was primarilly about what the players do on the pitch and it isn't.

Its about coloured toilet seats, burger vans, people watching the game, match officials, car parking, admission charges etc., etc..

I really appreciate that.

The players have nothing to to do with the game.

Money doesnt buy you success. Can spend 6 figures on out of form Cas players all you want, We have more kids up, Play for 1/6th of the wage. And play a lot better.

I just hope they keep employing Richard Agar, Even the points deducted clubs will be looking down on them soon.

Can we sign Briscoe off you

My God, you're still piping on about this one?

Tell you what, I'll go and coach Wigan for a year and we'll see how different the players perform. The way you sound, the coach doesn't even have a role to play!

Wigan 2009 - 5th under Noble
Wigan 2010 - 1st (champions) under Maguire with the same squad (except for Deacon).

Explain that one...

PLAYERS learn more and want to do more?

Whichever way you want to spin it it, it's down to the players.

If they don't want to, they won't and the best coach in the world will not make them.

Why would players not 'want to' perform? Do you think it's really as simple as when a bunch of players want to play well, they will? Do you really think the role of a coach is just to say 'come on lads, play well' and they will, and that is all it takes?

Every post you make is so far off the mark it's not funny. I don't understand how you can profess to watch the game and know so little.

You don't understand.

At Hull v Wakey the other night the players didn't WANT to play well thereby making Agar look even worse than he already is and therefore pushing him one step closer to being ousted.

You really ought to believe what you read on RLFans. It's always right.

Hull's attack is woeful, I agree. They let every team know what they are doing five yards before they get to the gameline. They need a major rethink.

Now do they players learn more on their own? Or because the coach is a better teacher? Or teachers them MORE things than the other coach?

There is some responsibility on the players obviously, yes. But only individually. If the entire team are doing poor, it's the responsibility of the coach. Players are responsible for themselves, not the team.

And your last line is also rubbish. If they don't want to, it's up to the coach to find out why they don't want to and correct the issue.

You talk about players "not wanting to perform", but you haven't given a reason why. Are you just suggesting that they can't be bothered?

I do not all togther blame Rich Agar, the problem is higher then him and in a lot of ways I feel quite sorry for him

Withot mentioning any names we have one person who dominaes the whole club and any coach has to be to an approved poodle standard. We have a procession of coaches, assistant coaches, conditioners and other assorted odds and sods leave the club in a hurry in recent years. Many of them have been at the club for years and had done notihing more then say, NO to the person concerned. John Kear is when this all started and since his "departure" things gave been on a downaward spiral.

I do not see any massive board changes in the offing and if this continues for any length of time people will drift away and break the habit. Once people break the habit ( I have already with the Friday night switch) then getting them back becomes very difficult and in the recession hit Britain this is doubly harder. Unless steps are taken high up to tackle the problem it will simply continue with the next person silly enought to take the job of coach on, neither Nobby or Macca are that stupid.

I can see by the end of the season crowds dwindling to 5k and pass sales for next season looking dire, quite simply they are killing the club. Its taken the faithful a long time to catch on, but they have finally caught up to reality and the clubs spin machine has been well and truly sussed out.

even he had a shocker on Friday night!