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| yeah he's well average...
god knows how he's widely reguarded as one of the top 3 second rowers in the game.technically top 2 seeing as he's been voted into the world 13 for the past few years.......god forbid he's english too....
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| cue LF telling us that th eworld13 vote is rigged by english jurnos
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"news.leaguehq.com.au/breaking-news-sport/ellis-success-whets-appetite-for-tigers-20090722-dtfp.html
the best way for your test team to get up to speed is to have a good number of your best players spend 3 - 5 years in the nrl. the younger the better.
ellis has been very good in what is a poor forward pack. hell get even better next year.
i even think the RFL should subsidize these moves by putting in say 50,000 pounds a player to make the economics of an nrl move more feasible.
it was aussie players like ken kearney and harry bath playing in england learning from the best that helped australian RL catch up in the 60s.'" What a great idea send all our best players in their prime to the other side of the world to play in teams where the vast majority won't be selected, and pay teams to take them. That'll really help the standard of the competition over here. The NRL is not the be all and end all of RL.  Remind me to never employ you.
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| They would come back better players though, that's beyond doubt.
When Morley was at the Roosters everytime he turned out for GB he was our best forward by some distance (except a certain game at the JJB).
Not that i'm condoning DM's idea, just saying that it wouldnt be such a bad thing if one or two more went over.
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| Quote Green_and_gold="Green_and_gold"Token Ellis is a very average player.
The Storm, Manly or Dragons wouldn't entertain him in their sides.
NRL sides should be bringing Aussie players into first grade football instead of some average Brit.
The only good thing about it is that it will teach him how to play the game properly and he will be better when he goes home to the UK'"
manly are after sam burgess whose a lesser player than ellis
ellis has killed it in the nrl. the only average thing i see is your knowledge of it
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| Quote roughyedspud="roughyedspud"yeah he's well average...
god knows how he's widely reguarded as one of the top 3 second rowers in the game.technically top 2 seeing as he's been voted into the world 13 for the past few years.......god forbid he's english too....'"
You are right.
He is very average.
If that bloke is supposed to be one of the top 3 second rowers in the game then the world has gone nuts.
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| Quote roughyedspud="roughyedspud"cue LF telling us that th eworld13 vote is rigged by english jurnos'"
Well why post that sh*t if you know how ridiculous it is?
I mean, if you honestly believe that, good for you. But the same idiots that said Fielden was any good put these sides together.
Civoniceva, Price, Blair, Lima, Poore, Myles.....I could go on and on with props that are better and the list of second rowers would be even longer!
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| would tiger ellis be good enough on this years nrl games.for state of origin 
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| Quote changa="changa"would tiger ellis be good enough on this years nrl games.for state of origin
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You know the only reason I have any interest in Australia vs England matches these days is to watch all these Pommy players they build up get Ownedâ„¢ so badly.
The effect only lasts about 2 or 3 weeks though, then it was just an off day, the ref hurt them, there was inter club rivalries at work and all that rubbish.
I always look back to the gold standard that was Stuart Fielden. They honestly believed he was the best in the world at a time when Shane Wbcke, Petero Civoniceva and the like were at their prime.
Shamed, demolished, dominated...game after game, but in their hearts these Poms said he was the best in the world.
At the time they were so up their own ar$es they actually gave Andrew Farrell an award and claimed he was the best player in the world!
These players all get found out. Every single last one of them. Even when they avoid test football as much as they can or scamper home from a tour.....all of them get found out.
Thing is, the Poms dont care. As long as these players are the best in their little northern town, no one cares.
Its why England is going backwards and why they were the 9th best team in a 10 team World Cup last year.
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| Quote The Glorious League Freak="The Glorious League Freak"You know the only reason I have any interest in Australia vs England matches these days is to watch all these Pommy players they build up get Ownedâ„¢ so badly.
The effect only lasts about 2 or 3 weeks though, then it was just an off day, the ref hurt them, there was inter club rivalries at work and all that rubbish.
I always look back to the gold standard that was Stuart Fielden. They honestly believed he was the best in the world at a time when Shane Wbcke, Petero Civoniceva and the like were at their prime.
Shamed, demolished, dominated...game after game, but in their hearts these Poms said he was the best in the world.
At the time they were so up their own ar$es they actually gave Andrew Farrell an award and claimed he was the best player in the world!
These players all get found out. Every single last one of them. Even when they avoid test football as much as they can or scamper home from a tour.....all of them get found out.
Thing is, the Poms dont care. As long as these players are the best in their little northern town, no one cares.
Its why England is going backwards and why they were the 9th best team in a 10 team World Cup last year.'"
How were they 9th Dipsh*t?
If you think Ireland or Fiji were better then you're freakin stupid.
Oh wait, you're an inbred Panthers fan, nevermind eh
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| Quote The Glorious League Freak="The Glorious League Freak"You know the only reason I have any interest in Australia vs England matches these days is to watch all these Pommy players they build up get Ownedâ„¢ so badly.
The effect only lasts about 2 or 3 weeks though, then it was just an off day, the ref hurt them, there was inter club rivalries at work and all that rubbish.
I always look back to the gold standard that was Stuart Fielden. They honestly believed he was the best in the world at a time when Shane Wbcke, Petero Civoniceva and the like were at their prime.
Shamed, demolished, dominated...game after game, but in their hearts these Poms said he was the best in the world.
At the time they were so up their own ar$es they actually gave Andrew Farrell an award and claimed he was the best player in the world!
These players all get found out. Every single last one of them. Even when they avoid test football as much as they can or scamper home from a tour.....all of them get found out.
Thing is, the Poms dont care. As long as these players are the best in their little northern town, no one cares.
Its why England is going backwards and why they were the 9th best team in a 10 team World Cup last year.'"
the tigers upset canberra yesterday.

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| to the 2 pretend aussie fans on here saying ellis hasnt gone well, have you heard of people like peter sterling, laurie daley and warren smith.
all have praised ellis contribution.
had he been playing for one of the sides i mentioned he would be in line for a Dally M award.
please guys, stop making fools of yourselves.
for those of us that do watch the nrl rather than pretend, you are dragging us down with you
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