Piggy Riddel was average in the NRL. If you're suggesting KC wouldn't be able to have out performed him, you work on a different logic than me.

Cunningham had a massive reputation in SL but never really seemed as interested in playing or performing for GB, particularly on overseas tours (this has long been a problem with Saints players e.g. Newlove, Long, Pryce etc). Terry Newton has made more of an impact at hooker internationally in the same period.

IIRC after the drugs affair he wasn't much of a player for a season or two and was being used as a prop. This seems to be glossed over by many Saints fans.

And then there was the whole threat of him being poached by Welsh RU. Why couldn't he just commit to RL? It is unlikely he would have made it in RU at hooker anyway with the game being so different in this position.

IMO Senior has been far more consistent both domestically and for GB. He's still the best British centre by some distance, and has not needed to be spelled for half the game for the past 4-5 seasons.

Senior hasn't played in the front row for 14 years! It's far easier to achieve such longevity as a back.

As a successful saints player, he is only good because the players around him make him look good, so is Long, was Sculthorpe, Lyon, Graham and Roby now and this will soon be the case of Wheeler, lomax and Eastmond etc. All of them are average at best and only look good because of the class around them. This is fact.

Fair post. I think what stops the same sort talk about Senior (and this is only my opinion, mind), is that, although he's been one of Britain's top two centres since what 2002(?), I don't think a lot of people rate him as highly as they did the likes of Newlove and Connolly. We've also had a lot of high quality overseas centres in SL over the last 10 years, whereas we've tended to do better at producing our own hookers and Cunnigham has been the best of that bunch.

Why though? Senior is better than both of them. Especially at international level.

Senior wasn't better than Newlove.

Newey scored 36 tries in 27 matches spearheading our title charge in 96, with his winger Sullivan scoring bagfuls year after year. Senior is a cracking player, but Newlove was a cut above in his pomp.

I wouldn't argue that Senior has done more at international level, but Newlove obviously couldn't be ar*ed with GB (which is what makes him fall short of being a legend in my eyes).

Getting him on the pitch abroad was difficult, but whenever Newlove played against the Aussie he caused them trouble.

I remember him giving Ettinghausen (sp?) a right headache in '97 even though our team was so far on the back foot they may as well stayed in the changing rooms. Top try scorer in the 95 world cup. there was also the time we were desperate (94 ashes I think) to get him back from injury toplay a part in the series - IIRC he came off the bech to score?

I have to say, the likes of Newlove, Connolly, Offiah, Davies and Robinson we're streets ahead of the british 3/4s that we've had in the 00's

i agree,and so did the welsh ru at the time.they wanted him to play inside centre.i dont know if it would have worked not knowing that much about union,but that is what i was told.

Sorry but there is no way Senior is better than either Newlove or Connolly in their "pomp"

Didn't Newlove have a fear for flying in an aircraft, hence no overseas tours.

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