If I squinted a bit I could probably convince myself I was watching last year's Cas side tonight. Hell, they were even wearing black and amber... Lots of enthusiasm and good in patches but just not quite on the pace, leading to slightly desperate plays especially late on. I predict a similar season to Cas' last one - one or two welcome shocks but all in all a building exercise. Hopefully the people of South Wales will be patient.

As for the crowd, IMHO getting over 4k into a place like The Willows is no mean achievement.

Young ?

The bloke is 30.

yes but most get in for nothing in catalan dont for get that.

Yes they breed them hard in W1g4n , especially when they are then trained in Leigh

Dont forget the free ticket offer tonight as well, up the franchise process

Now, now Disco. Stop it. You know perfectly well that we can't be having anything sensible said to disturb the circle jerk on this forum about how awful (somebody else's) crowds are.

Everyone knows we aren't the biggest supported club, so why our gates should be of any concern to anybody.... We got 4,000 fans for a Saturday night.... on TV.... On Valentines night... with no away support. Had we played say Wigan or Leeds and the gate was 8,000.... nobody would be questioning anything.

For the fool suggesting Widnes should have been in in front of us.... on what basis ?... average attendance or the fact that they have such a great history when it comes to running the business.

Fact is.... had the franchise process not been in place we would be here on merit anyway.... Salford deserve to be in SL.... get used to it.... we may be here for some time.

I was going to say that id we (Leeds) had been there an extra 3k or so would have been in the ground and no one would have mentioned the 1k below your last average rubbish. At the end of the day all but 3 or 4 will take less than 1k there and 3 or 4 will take around 3k or more. the rest will be somewhere inbetween giving an average of around 5-6k IMO.

You sure.... he was over reffing last season for several weeks...

You have to be worried about that attendance. First game of the season is always an inflated crowd, so it looks as though Salford are going to have around 3,000 'homies'. It's not enough.

If they can get the stadium and 7,000 dial-a-fans then fine, but there is no way they should be in Super League without it.

And Celtic are going to have massive problems too, I can't see them winning a single game this season. One wonders what that would do the attendances in Wales, they could end up smaller than Salfords.

Neither club should be in Super League in their current state, it makes a mockery of the whole thing. But having said that the likes of Wakefield, Huddersfield and Saints don't belong in a 'Super' league either, so we'll have to fumble blindly onwards.

SKY game

Just about every single statement you've made there is absolute garbage.