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Quote: HXSparky "I'm clearly not a Leigh fan, but on what do you base the "bankruptcy" statement? Also, in terms of being an "experiment", Leigh were a founder member of the Northern Union in 1895. They've had success and been in the doldrums at times in the intervening period, but the "impressive" French and Canadian clubs still have a way to go to establish themselves as true "winners" in the sport. A Challenge Cup triumph is a start, but no more than that.'"

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Quote: HXSparky "I'm clearly not a Leigh fan, but on what do you base the "bankruptcy" statement? Also, in terms of being an "experiment", Leigh were a founder member of the Northern Union in 1895. They've had success and been in the doldrums at times in the intervening period, but the "impressive" French and Canadian clubs still have a way to go to establish themselves as true "winners" in the sport. A Challenge Cup triumph is a start, but no more than that.'"

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



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What i don't get is why supposed supporters or St Helens and Leeds, 2 of the UK's most succesful and biggest clubs in the summer era are literally wetting themselves over a fake 'Canadian team', do they not think if they were to become as big as they make out on here it may take success away from their 'own' club or maybe as we all know but aren't allowed to say unless we want to get a warning off the mods, they are simply trolling and not a fan of any club but simply pedalling an agenda backed up by some in authority?

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If Toronto get into Super League and play a home Sky game on a Thursday Night do all away supporters get free transport like we do to other away Sky fixtures on Thursday nights? Just asking like......

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: LyndsayGill "If Toronto get into Super League and play a home Sky game on a Thursday Night do all away supporters get free transport like we do to other away Sky fixtures on Thursday nights? Just asking like......'"

Yeah....coz the viewing figures for a midnight KO on a school night will be epic icon_cool.gif

Like Catalans, Toronto will play their games at a fixed time on a fixed day, probably 3pm local time on Saturdays, giving SKY an 8pm KO every second week. If they can take the feed from the mancpacs broadcast partners, then I expect Catalans to be at home one week, Toronto the next, giving SKY Thursday, Friday and Saturday every weekend.

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Quote: Alan Cargill "What i don't get is why supposed supporters or St Helens and Leeds, 2 of the UK's most succesful and biggest clubs in the summer era are literally wetting themselves over a fake 'Canadian team', do they not think if they were to become as big as they make out on here it may take success away from their 'own' club or maybe as we all know but aren't allowed to say unless we want to get a warning off the mods, they are simply trolling and not a fan of any club but simply pedalling an agenda backed up by some in authority?'"

There’s nothing fake about The Toronto Wolfpack. They have massive support in Canada (over 8000 home fans) and many in the UK, like myself, support them as my 2nd club.
Personally I don’t want to hold the sport back just so my club, Leeds Rhinos, have a better chance of success.

Competing in a league with the likes of Wakefield, Leigh, Widnes and Salford is not as appealing as competing in a league with Catalans, Toulouse and Toronto. It’s exciting times for Super League.

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Quote: Alan Cargill "What i don't get is why supposed supporters or St Helens and Leeds, 2 of the UK's most succesful and biggest clubs in the summer era are literally wetting themselves over a fake 'Canadian team', do they not think if they were to become as big as they make out on here it may take success away from their 'own' club or maybe as we all know but aren't allowed to say unless we want to get a warning off the mods, they are simply trolling and not a fan of any club but simply pedalling an agenda backed up by some in authority?'"


If Toronto doesn’t work it doesn’t work. If it does it does. Why the fear and opposition? What better ideas do you have? A Cumbrian merger which isn’t feasible due to the geography of the county?

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "There’s nothing fake about The Toronto Wolfpack. They have massive support in Canada (over 8000 home fans) and many in the UK, like myself, support them as my 2nd club.
Personally I don’t want to hold the sport back just so my club, Leeds Rhinos, have a better chance of success.

Competing in a league with the likes of Wakefield, Leigh, Widnes and Salford is not as appealing as competing in a league with Catalans, Toulouse and Toronto. It’s exciting times for Super League.'"



Why the need to have a dig at those clubs?

Grow up you childish person !

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Unfortunately as a sport in the UK we lack credibility. Some of that is due to the number of small teams all situated so closely together in largely working class towns. There is still a place in RL for these sides but we need a league represented by the likes of Toulouse, Catalans, London, York, Toronto etc. I hope that if the sport can thrive so can the other teams. Sport is now very closely linked to TV exposure and RU has proven that good TV exposure (at international level in particular) can lead to increased attendances at club games.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "There’s nothing fake about The Toronto Wolfpack. They have massive support in Canada (over 8000 home fans) and many in the UK, like myself, support them as my 2nd club.
Personally I don’t want to hold the sport back just so my club, Leeds Rhinos, have a better chance of success.

Competing in a league with the likes of Wakefield, Leigh, Widnes and Salford is not as appealing as competing in a league with Catalans, Toulouse and Toronto. It’s exciting times for Super League.'"


I thought Catalan were your second club, or do you have more than one second club, a bit like user names d040.gif

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Because of your strange obsession with denigrating the impressive French and Canadian clubs, while promoting in a cult like manner, the bankruptcy bound Leigh Centurions experiment.'"



I will tell you what was put shall I..

Bugiezilla threw the "troll" comment to Kev, Kev stated it broke the rules by name calling other users.

I did point out, and quoted Kev doing exactly the same on the same thread 2 pages earlier.

I told him of his double standards.

Now all the posts have all mysteriously disappeared without any reason.

Now, what I find funny is nothing is said to the usual baiters on here when they break "the rules", its just swept silently under the carpet.

Nothing to do with an obsession you seem to have with Leigh

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Quote: RoyBoy29 "I will tell you what was put shall I..

Bugiezilla threw the "troll" comment to Kev, Kev stated it broke the rules by name calling other users.

Now all the posts have all mysteriously disappeared without any reason.

Now, what I find funny is nothing is said to the usual baiters on here when they break "the rules", its just swept silently under the carpet.

Nothing to do with an obsession you seem to have with Leigh'"

I have what seems to be an indefinite ban from the Leigh forum for nothing other than stating facts and not heaping praise on Leigh. Why don’t you go back to your echo chamber that is the Leigh forum where you can sing the praises about how fantastic the 6th placed bankruptcy bound club are.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Alan Cargill "they are simply trolling and not a fan of any club'"


and to prove the point....


Quote: Alan Cargill "There’s nothing fake about The Toronto Wolfpack. '"
Alas, there is a lot that is fake........starting with their faux attempt last year to discover canadian talent to this years multiple "hook up's" with Canadian Union and their 100% reliance on both thousands of free tickets and a beer festival, not to mention the outlandish claims of attendances when anyone with eyes can see that they are simply lying and repeating the lie until people believe the lie....and they still peddle the 1st Trans-Atlantic Pro sports side.....type "1991 and WLAF" into Google 3.95068359375:5
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