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| A breach of 0.8% is hardly going to distort the competition, how the RFL describe that as a "serious" breach is mystifying.
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| Isn't the this the third salary cap offence for Wigan (not including their original dispensation)? What is it about the salary cap that they and Lenaghan have such difficulty with?
The Wigan statement is the typical pompous, arrogant statement that we've come to expect. People aren't stupid enough to need to have it spelled out that 100.8 is less than 101, so why mention it? A breach is a breach, it's a stupid breach and they tried to conceal it.
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| Not sure if Wigan have more money than sense,or it’s just arrogance.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "LOL'"
Ha ha - I followed a Facebook link when I first saw the story. Should have checked it with a more reputable news outlet!
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| Quote: Angelus "*gets out the popcorn*'"
Can I share your popcorn please, it is going to be a long sanctimonious thread?
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Not sure if Wigan have more money than sense,or it’s just arrogance.'"
Yeah £15k, really splashing it about aren't we...
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| Cheating gets. Biggest name in RL they promote themselves as. hmmm repeated cheating is all they excel in.
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| Now I'm all for Wigan getting the worst possible treatment, and I must say, it made me chuckle when I was first reading the RFL statement this morning. Any bad news for Wigan is generally good news to me as a Leeds fan.
But jeez, it's £14k - feels like a massive over reaction from the RFL to me. I'd envisage they'll get their points back on appeal, and rightly so really. I can only think their previous indiscretions and Lennegan being a bit of a throbber have played against them.
As others have stated, the real shame is that this will now take the headlines, when both Super league and the club's alongside the RLWC team seem to have done a lot better than ever with their marketing in this last couple of weeks.
Feels like a massive own goal from the RFL in terms of timing, their apparent bodging of their own procedures and the over the top punishment, and a bit of an amateurish mess up by Wigan (and attempt to hide it). Sorry state of affairs when everything was building nicely for the season launch.
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| To all the people saying it's 'only' £15,000 so they should get the points back. what's the point in having a salary cap at all then?
Everyone has the same cap, it's fixed. Going over it is cheating. Every other team in Super League stuck to it, so getting away with it would send completely the wrong message.
They say it's because of flights and agents, but I could equally argue that the £15,000 they used for that was actually in the first million spent, and this overspend was Sam Tomkins wages - it's a pot of cash that all player costs come out of and once you go over that you don't get to be the ones who define how or why.
Leeds had an injury crisis last year, why didn't we just go £15,000 over the cap to get someone in on a short term deal? Apparently having injuries is a good enough excuse to cheat and according to some shouldn't come with any real consequences.
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| I find Cas getting salary cap relief and then not using for what it's for more of cheating scandal then a systematic error.
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "To all the people saying it's 'only' £15,000 so they should get the points back. what's the point in having a salary cap at all then?
Everyone has the same cap, it's fixed. Going over it is cheating. Every other team in Super League stuck to it, so getting away with it would send completely the wrong message.
They say it's because of flights and agents, but I could equally argue that the £15,000 they used for that was actually in the first million spent, and this overspend was Sam Tomkins wages - it's a pot of cash that all player costs come out of and once you go over that you don't get to be the ones who define how or why.
Leeds had an injury crisis last year, why didn't we just go £15,000 over the cap to get someone in on a short term deal? Apparently having injuries is a good enough excuse to cheat and according to some shouldn't come with any real consequences.'"
So what if someone goes £1 over the salary cap? 2 point deduction?
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| Quote: Wigg'n "So what if someone goes £1 over the salary cap? 2 point deduction?'"
Why not? There's really no excuse for breaching something that has a finite barrier. Maybe the punishment should be 1 point deducted for every £5,000 (or part thereof) over the cap. Leeds have managed to be the most successful team in Superleague without breaching the cap once, so it's not like staying within it is impossible.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "So what if someone goes £1 over the salary cap? 2 point deduction?'"
Yes?
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| Quote: Exiled down south "Cheating gets. Biggest name in RL they promote themselves as. hmmm repeated cheating is all they excel in.'"
However the previous two salary cap breaches took place when Dave Whelan and Maurice Lindsay were in charge.
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| Quote: Willzay "I find Cas getting salary cap relief and then not using for what it's for more of cheating scandal then a systematic error.'"
Nah, the player we are after just isn't available yet.
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