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| Quote: Mash Butty "I'm sure I heard Gorden Tallis say the other day it took Queensland 70 years to beat New South Wales in one form or another.'"
I've no idea if 70 years is accurate or not, but that's exactly the point I'm making. Why are we (as a sport) holding TWP/Canada to such unrealistic expectations when every other precedent for expansion says it'll take decades not a couple of years to bear fruit.
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| Quote: DGM "Of course they're a side of overseas players, what else could they possibly be at this moment in time after 2 years? The point is expansion, some will agree with expansion, some wont, that's fine), and getting a foothold in North America, which will hopefully pay dividends in the future.
You've already without realising it made the point for me. They've "bought their way into the Championship" - so what you're saying is that they're bringing money into the game? Money into a game desperately in need of more money? That's great then isn't it?
Also, what do you think other clubs do to enable them to compete & improve - they invest! Why are you calling out Toronto for spending money, other clubs reply on their chairman's money too, in fact most clubs are reliant upon their chairman's money to survive. What's the difference?
I shouldn't need to point this out to you, but Rugby League has had a strong foothold in France since the 1930's. They had a fairly decent infrastructure (a semi-pro league) already when Catalans joined SL in 2006, and we've seen improvements in player numbers ever since. Using France as an example isn't a fair comparison.'"
I agree with expansion but I think they've signed an excessive amount of overseas players for a club thats been around 2 years. Investing money isn't a bad thing but buying your way to the top is and it doesn't do anything for the game in my opinion.
You're right, other clubs do rely of their chairmans money but how many other clubs have you seen sign 9 NRL grade players within 2 years?
After a quick read up about RL in France, would you say 30,000 participants would be classed as "strong"? I would also say you couldn't possibly say it has a strong foothold in France when the sport was once banned there and it is often pointed out in the media that the sport has struggled to recover.
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| Quote: Trinity18 "I agree with expansion but I think they've signed an excessive amount of overseas players for a club thats been around 2 years. Investing money isn't a bad thing but buying your way to the top is and it doesn't do anything for the game in my opinion.
You're right, other clubs do rely of their chairmans money but how many other clubs have you seen sign 9 NRL grade players within 2 years?
After a quick read up about RL in France, would you say 30,000 participants would be classed as "strong"? I would also say you couldn't possibly say it has a strong foothold in France when the sport was once banned there and it is often pointed out in the media that the sport has struggled to recover.'"
So you don`t want them to spend money on players? Because it`s unfair on a small town club like yours that don`t have the interest of a big money backer or anywhere near enough fans to even spend up to the cap? So you are throwing your teddy of the cot like a petulant child? They are spending money in the hope of success as every other club that can afford to do so does.
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| Quote: ScouseViking "So you don`t want them to spend money on players? Because it`s unfair on a small town club like yours that don`t have the interest of a big money backer or anywhere near enough fans to even spend up to the cap? So you are throwing your teddy of the cot like a petulant child? They are spending money in the hope of success as every other club that can afford to do so does.'"
That's exactly what he & others are doing .
"Eric, please don't spend money that you have readily available on improving your club because you'll overtake us and it's not fair"
They have to adhere to the same salary cap and non-fed player rules as the other clubs (FYI Trinty1icon_cool.gif
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| Quote: DGM "That's exactly what he & others are doing
Thankyou for stating the obvious truth of it.
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| Quote: ScouseViking "So you don`t want them to spend money on players? Because it`s unfair on a small town club like yours that don`t have the interest of a big money backer or anywhere near enough fans to even spend up to the cap? So you are throwing your teddy of the cot like a petulant child? They are spending money in the hope of success as every other club that can afford to do so does.'"
Appreciate the support; there clearly is a double standard at play.
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| Well all I will say DGM, ScouseViking and Canoeman... there isn't ANYTHING admirable about buying success.
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| How many canadians play for the Raptors?
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| None, from what I can see but that's no justification just because another club has done it
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| Quote: Trinity18 "None, from what I can see but that's no justification just because another club has done it'"
Sounds like sour grapes now, if Trinity's owner wanted to pump a load of cash in would you turn your back on them?
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| Quote: DGM "Sounds like sour grapes now, if Trinity's owner wanted to pump a load of cash in would you turn your back on them?'"
Like we did in 2011? Definitely not, I love my club but it doesn't say I agreed with it.
Very different scenario either way, we were a club with almost 140 years of heritage and a squad which would have seen us get relegated.
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| Quote: Trinity18 "Like we did in 2011? Definitely not, I love my club but it doesn't say I agreed with it.
Very different scenario either way, we were a club with almost 140 years of heritage and a squad which would have seen us get relegated.'"
As I stated previously, there is clearly a double standard at play. This comment proves it.
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| Quote: Canoeman "As I stated previously, there is clearly a double standard at play. This comment proves it.'"
Can you not read?
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| Quote: Trinity18 "Can you not read?'"
Can you not understand your own writing, reread your post. You infer that because your club is old it should be held to a different account/standard than my new club....definition of double standard. You are simply trying to have it both ways....doesn't work like that!
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| Quote: Trinity18 "Like we did in 2011? Definitely not, I love my club but it doesn't say I agreed with it.
Very different scenario either way, we were a club with almost 140 years of heritage and a squad which would have seen us get relegated.'"
Ok, so you're saying that any investment from a clubs chairman, basically any revenue that isn't tv rights, commercial or fan generated, is bad money and we should turn away anyone wanting to put money into the sport? Or do you only apply that moral standard to new clubs?
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