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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Hmmm. GB work around the Olympic cycle becuase how well they do determines how much funding they get. Just look at the previous 2 Olympics and how many medals GB won in cycling compared to Aus and NZ. GB pretty much treat the worlds as a practise event for the Olympics.'"
Cool story that.....but it doesn't change the fact that NZ finished with as many medals as GB and Australia finished first THIS YEAR and the claim was that GB were better than the ANZACS which they aren't...at a great many sports.
POPULATIONS 65,000,000 + or 28,800,000......and lest we forget who invented many of the team sports that your so :adequate" at now
Cricket Tests (3rd and we're coming into our summer now), ODI (below Australia) 20/20 (below NZ), Union (below NZ), League (below both ANZACS) Basketball (below both ANZACS) Field Hockey (below Australia), Association Football (12th )
GB bumper stickers on cars stand got GETTING BETTER......
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| GB has won the davis cup more recently than Australia
England currently hold the ashes
The winner of the tour de france is British
The formula 1 world champion is British
The UK has 8 current world boxing champions.
And I'm not even getting into the last Olympic medal table!
I think our little island does ok on a global sporting level.
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| Quote: Moe syslak "I think our little island does ok on a global sporting level.'"
rlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_sports_championshipsrl
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1. GB/Great Britain
2. Australia
3. New Zealand
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| Quote: Call Me God "rlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_sports_championshipsrl
Search for
1. GB/Great Britain
2. Australia
3. New Zealand'"
Well, it still lists North Queensland as the WCC Winners, not Wigan, so it's an unreliable source.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Hmmm. GB work around the Olympic cycle becuase how well they do determines how much funding they get. Just look at the previous 2 Olympics and how many medals GB won in cycling compared to Aus and NZ. GB pretty much treat the worlds as a practise event for the Olympics.'"
Anyone that knows anything about Cycling knows this is fact and not a cool story. Team GB cycling is all about peaking for the Olympics, because that's the be all and end all for those athletes and also has been mentioned decides the amount of funding. To push the point further look at how many medals GB Cyclists won in the Olympics last year 12 (6 gold) to Aus 2 mefals, just a bronze and a silver.
The Olympic medal table from last year speaks volumes, GB finished 2nd to the US with 67 medals (27 Gold ) to Aus' 29 medals (8 gold).
I remember the Olympics before that when Yorkshire alone won more Medals than Aus.
Just to add to the post by Moe syslak. In the Cricket Ashes, England have won 5 out of the last 7 series. A British bloke has also won 5 out of the last 6 Tour de France. Also the Uk has had the most F1 winners of any country at 17, 5 more than the next.
Got to at the huge list up there, some serious cherrry picking going on. Some of the sports it's about what's happened this year, like Cycling & Rowing, some are historical records like in RU ( no mention of last years whitewash England put on Aus in their own back yard) & Cricket. The boxing for some reason is just about HW's, not the other weight classes & all the other World Champions GB has got.
Anyway how did this sport dick measuring contest even get started.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Hmmm. GB work around the Olympic cycle becuase how well they do determines how much funding they get. Just look at the previous 2 Olympics and how many medals GB won in cycling compared to Aus and NZ. GB pretty much treat the worlds as a practise event for the Olympics.'"
GB Only recently after the 2000 olympics decided that cycling was going to be a target sport, so they threw millions at it & stole all Australias coaches, experts, it was a period where you do well because of olympics & funding, don't go getting excited soap dodger
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| Quote: Moe syslak "GB has won the davis cup more recently than Australia
England currently hold the ashes
The winner of the tour de france is British
The formula 1 world champion is British
The UK has 8 current world boxing champions.
And I'm not even getting into the last Olympic medal table!
I think our little island does ok on a global sporting level.'"
you want to mention Tennis??? really??? consider Australia, historically is only second to the greatest Tennis nation to walk the face of the earth, GB can't hold a candle to Australias tennis history, you haver one surly sweaty jock who is British when he wins & Scottish when he loses
Again, Cricket, in the modern era Australia have been largely dominant & should tear you a new one this coming series
TDF.....well hes Kenyan/ South African but we get the picture, Bring on the new guard, Richie Porte
Formula one...pffft my cars faster than your car because i'm rich
boxing...thats just because you're a third world country, its admirable that you have young migrants that are eager to break free of poverty, & its nice that they want to entertain the rich
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| Quote: Shifty Cat "Anyone that knows anything about Cycling knows this is fact and not a cool story. Team GB cycling is all about peaking for the Olympics, because that's the be all and end all for those athletes and also has been mentioned decides the amount of funding. To push the point further look at how many medals GB Cyclists won in the Olympics last year 12 (6 gold) to Aus 2 mefals, just a bronze and a silver.
The Olympic medal table from last year speaks volumes, GB finished 2nd to the US with 67 medals (27 Gold ) to Aus' 29 medals (8 gold).
I remember the Olympics before that when Yorkshire alone won more Medals than Aus.
Just to add to the post by Moe syslak. In the Cricket Ashes, England have won 5 out of the last 7 series. A British bloke has also won 5 out of the last 6 Tour de France. Also the Uk has had the most F1 winners of any country at 17, 5 more than the next.
Got to
i remember about 10 commonwealth games, which lets face it, is generally a two horse race that Australia win by the length of the straight, this is a more accurate gauge
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| Quote: downo "you want to mention Tennis??? really??? consider Australia, historically is only second to the greatest Tennis nation to walk the face of the earth, GB can't hold a candle to Australias tennis history, you haver one surly sweaty jock who is British when he wins & Scottish when he loses
Again, Cricket, in the modern era Australia have been largely dominant & should tear you a new one this coming series
TDF.....well hes Kenyan/ South African but we get the picture, Bring on the new guard, Richie Porte
Formula one...pffft my cars faster than your car because i'm rich
boxing...thats just because you're a third world country, its admirable that you have young migrants that are eager to break free of poverty, & its nice that they want to entertain the rich'"
funny how sports that the Aussies are not good at and are vastly inferior to Gb at are just dismissed, as for your comments about immigrants, well Australia seem quite happy to fill there side with pacific island immigrants but a guess thats ok.
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| Quote: downo "i remember about 10 commonwealth games, which lets face it, is generally a two horse race that Australia win by the length of the straight, this is a more accurate gauge'"
Commonwealth games is like the lowest competition for British sportsmen, track and field alone it clashes with the Europeans which most British athletes peak for instead, usain bolt has not even bothered competing at a commonwealth games because there such a low standard. The last time the Commonwealth games were in Melbourne most British athletes went to the world indoors instead as it was a better more prestigious competition. in athletics cycling rowing swimming and numerous other sports its fourth or 5th behind Olympics, worlds, Continental, (indoors)
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| Quote: downo "i remember about 10 commonwealth games, which lets face it, is generally a two horse race that Australia win by the length of the straight, this is a more accurate gauge'"
It's only because the Aussies are decent swimmers.
You're not too hot on many of the other events ?
Must be trying to keep away from the Great Whites
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| Quote: Shifty Cat "Anyway how did this sport dick measuring contest even get started.
some nonce made an earlier sweeping statement that the ANZACS were better at League and that was about it......I simply listed the other team sports that GB invented and where they stand on the global stage beside the ANZAC cousins.....which made uncomfortable reading for some who then wrapped themselves in the comfort blanket of track cycling and specifically the Olympics and not the worlds because the worlds don't count.......the reality is that 'STRALIA are the heavy hitters in terms of commonwealth sporting achievements, with England 2nd......New Zealand with a population 16 times smaller than GB are assuredly the overachievers in this "dick measuring contest" whilst the sports that Britain does well in usually involves an ANZAC coach....cricket, league, union, swimming, cycling....etc.etc....
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| Quote: Call Me God "some nonce made an earlier sweeping statement that the ANZACS were better at League and that was about it......I simply listed the other team sports that GB invented and where they stand on the global stage beside the ANZAC cousins.....which made uncomfortable reading for some who then wrapped themselves in the comfort blanket of track cycling and specifically the Olympics and not the worlds because the worlds don't count.......the reality is that 'STRALIA are the heavy hitters in terms of commonwealth sporting achievements, with England 2nd......New Zealand with a population 16 times smaller than GB are assuredly the overachievers in this "dick measuring contest" whilst the sports that Britain does well in usually involves an ANZAC coach....cricket, league, union, swimming, cycling....etc.etc....'"
Nice name calling there. Sure fire way to win an argument.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Nice name calling there. Sure fire way to win an argument.'"
How else would you describe someone who makes an unfounded claim against to other countries sporting achievements? A Patriot perhaps?
I could have said "a misguided poster with slight jingoistic and racist undertones", but nonce was easier to type.....
...as for the 'DEBATE" about sporting excellence, RL is a team sport so I believe there is a relevance in comparing the abilities of each country in TEAM sports....like cricket, basketball, League, Union, Soccer et al....but cling to Mo Farrah and track cycling if you must, whilst the original misguided poster with slight jingoistic and racist undertones" would like to now forget his claim about rowing where they were obviously suffering a severe bout of "Redgraveitis" and living on past glories....and cling to the 12th seeding on soccer if you must..50 years of hurt and all that
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| According to our good friends at wiki, these are the list of major sports in NZ
1 Rugby union - Ranked above England
2 Basketball - Ranked above England and GB
3 Cricket - Ranked higher in 20/20 and ODI
4 Netball - Ranked Higher
5 Rugby league - Ranked Higher
6 Football - Ranked so far behind it's an embarrassment
7. Field Hockey - England are ranked 7 and NZ 8th
.....so in a list of the top 7 team sports in either country, it's 5-2 to NZ....a nation with 1/16th of the population of GB.
The Same List for the Criminals across the pond reads 5-2 not in favour of the "mother country"
The prosecution rests m'lord.
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