Nope, the old Bradford are not a member of any organisation.

The New Bradford are a member of the RFL + SL(europe) ltd, by virture of their ownership of the Golden Share. That Golden Share belongs to Bradford Bulls Northern ltd. A company which took over the club a matter of weeks ago.

Yeah. You know. It's similar to Brain Science.

The Bulls that are in SL now are the same Bulls that we in last year.

The new owners did not have to apply for membership, the club was already a member. Only the owners have changed.

The penalty is correct.

And let's not forget, this thread is about how one club can be told admin equals relegation, whilst another, apparently iconic club takes that route, without relegation.

No you are wrong. They arent. The previous holders of the Golden Share were OK Bulls (then apparently for a short period of time we are supposed to forget ever happened BB20014), it is now held by Bradford Bulls Northern Ltd. The Golden Share, and such the membership of the RFL and SL(e) were transferred by the RFL.

Yes, they did. Thats why the RFL were allowed to interfere with the due legal process the administrator had to take. The RFL only has any say in how a club exits admin, and who it exits it to because they control the transfer of the Golden Share which bestows membership of the RFL and SL(e) upon its holder.

As Blake Solly explains “The transfer of both the Super League and RFL membership from OK Bulls to the new company is subject to RFL approval"

You were wrong.


except, even Mr Carter is rowing back from that claim.

Where has Carter backtracked?

Link?

You know what, if all that is true, someone should have told the prospective owners that sanctions were in place BEFORE they decided to buy the Bulls.

Oh, wait...

Yeah, let's Dock Omar Khan 20 points and draw a line under the whole affair

Thats a funny way of saying "i was wrong"

Any way, when originally on the Wakefield board we were told Carter had said if Wakefield were to go into admin they would have been immediately relegated,

that seems to have changed now 'If we had gone into administration, we probably wouldn't have got our licence to play this season"

I have no idea why Mr Carter thinks that Wakefield should have simply been able to dump debts they clearly could pay, nor why he isnt thinks that 'If there is no penalty for going into administration, then what's to stop us going into administration? We wouldn't do it now because our debts aren't particularly great" he would lose the club, his investment in it and his house apparently. Seems a fairly clear penalty for admin to me. I would think the 6 points would pale compared to that.

Just because we are aware of a decision, doesnt in any way make it a right of justifiable one.

Wakefield being scared of relegation isnt a good enough reason to dock Bradford points. If anything it simply highlights the failings of the return to P+R

The owners who wanted Admin were Glover and Elston not Carter!
Carter made the statement about Admin probably costing Wakefield their licence in pre season and before any players were sold so it wasn't a statement made as a reaction to Bradford's appeal. Why would he make that statement when he did (preseason) if it weren't true, it didn't serve any purpose other than to explain to Wakefield fans why drastic cuts were being made.

No you're right on that one but going into Administration is punished by a 6 point deduction!

Steve O'Conner accepted the penalty when he took over from Tony Chambers at Widnes
Geoff Moss and Ian Roberts accepted it when they took over from Leighton Samuel at Crusaders
Andrew Glover accepted it when he took over from Ted Richardson at Wakefield

But Marc a green wants Bradford to be treated differently and seeks a zero punishment for Bradford's Administration despite the above precedents for both punishment and taking responsibility for the way the club was run prior to taking ownership.

It's madness and delusion to to expect the creditors to get shafted and the Rugby League doing the shafting to walk away unpunished.

Carter hasn't backtracked - he has been consistent in his assertions.

He has always said there should be a deterrent and a penalty for going into admin.

The people who think there shouldn't be is Bulls. They want no penalty...clearly the previous penalty they received was not enough to deter them from running the business so badly for a second time in two years.

Having been told the club would not be supported by the RFL should Wakey go into admin, he then chose to put his home on the line to keep the club going. What did Bulls do?

Bleating about the penalty AFTER buying club and knowing the penalty was there is just further evidence of the way Bulls think they are above and beyond not only the letter of the rules, but the spirit of them also.

Because it reflects well on him and taps into the victim mentality present at Wakefield.

Btw I'm not saying it isn't true, simply presented in the most favourable terms to him.

Where is the deterrent to Omar Kahn putting the bulls into admin by deducting Marc Greens club points? It has no effect on Omar Kahn at all.

I want a deterrent. I want a punishment and rules that work. Deducting the new bulls points for what the old bulls did is neither of those.

It isn't a deterrent because it punishes clearly the wrong people. If anything we should be giving more help to people like Carter and Green, they are putting their money in to try and rectify the mess someone else made of one of our clubs