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| All fantastic conclusions after 2 games.
The Warriors fans were loving him after the 9s tournament.
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| Quote: Kiwi Shane "
NRL player?
Nope on both counts for me.'"
How arrogant!
If Tomkins isn't NRL standard you must have another 16 who aren't because he was the Warriors best player last week (albeit not at his best). I've not seen the game this week but I believe he was again one of the better players in another poor effort.
Believe me Tomkins is world class. He has mixed his game up in the past 12-18 months and become a really strong creative force and to me that means he should be moved to six. He would thrive in that position with his weaknesses at fullback not being exposed as they are at the minute.
Ultimately he's not playing in as good a side as he was at Wigan over the last few years and he's not playing under a top coach like he was under Maguire and then Wane. He can't work miracles!
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| Quote: Kiwi Shane "See I'm not so sure.
He is far too light for the NRL. He is built like a teenage boy. He seems to have a problem tackling. Everyone knows that in a pressure situation he can be very ordinary under a high ball. 5th tackle...high ball...get your big men to rush him - spilled ball --- 4 points. Easy.
Full back?
NRL player?
Nope on both counts for me.'"
If he isn't an NRL player you have a serious problem with your squad. Fisiiahi, Nielson, Hurrell, Vatuvei, Leuluai, Friend, Mateo, Bukuya, Matagi, Lillyman, Henry, Locke, Tuimavave, Townsend, Laumape, Lousi, Ropati... hell the NRL doesn't have enough players to fill more than a couple of teams by that standard...
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| Quote: Kiwi Shane "See I'm not so sure.
He is far too light for the NRL. He is built like a teenage boy. He seems to have a problem tackling. Everyone knows that in a pressure situation he can be very ordinary under a high ball. 5th tackle...high ball...get your big men to rush him - spilled ball --- 4 points. Easy.
Full back?
NRL player?
Nope on both counts for me.'"
Any time you would like to send him back.....
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| Quote: MattyB "Any time you would like to send him back.....
I take it you're a fan of Union then?
That's the only place he'll be coming back home to.
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| Quote: William Eve "I take it you're a fan of Union then?
That's the only place he'll be coming back home to.'"
Stop being so cynical William, let people believe he’ll back, in the future, when all’s well.
You’ve too much time on your hands now you’ve given up on your “attendance baby”, where is it BTW?
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Stop being so cynical William, let people believe he’ll back, in the future, when all’s well.'"
Cynicism is often confused with realism but the game in this country is still struggling to overcome the cancer of Super League franchising. Anyhow, Tomkins has expressed his future plans/desires to play Union on numerous occasions. Beyond the NRL, the game has nothing left to offer. Super League can no longer afford him, nor can it provide the requisite big stage or challenge for players of his ability. Sam Burgess and James Graham know this all too well.
Quote: The Devil's Advocate "You’ve too much time on your hands now you’ve given up on your “attendance baby”, where is it BTW?'"
JonB95's baby.
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| Quote: Kiwi Shane "See I'm not so sure.
He is far too light for the NRL. He is built like a teenage boy. He seems to have a problem tackling. Everyone knows that in a pressure situation he can be very ordinary under a high ball. 5th tackle...high ball...get your big men to rush him - spilled ball --- 4 points. Easy.
Full back?
NRL player?
Nope on both counts for me.'"
In the pantheon of dumb posts on this forum this one ranks very high.
If I were a Warriors I'd be far more worried about some of your other players and their serious lack of bottle - all NRL trained by the way. The lack of success of your team has little to do with Tomkins and a lot to do with the lack of pride in your shirt shown by your home grown Kiwi players - and this has been the case for years.
Still if you want a two match pom as your whipping boy for the season knock yourself out.
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| Tomkins will be a flop Down Under. He'll come crawling back to SL within 2 years.
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| Quote: William Eve "Cynicism is often confused with realism but the game in this country is still struggling to overcome the cancer of Super League franchising. Anyhow, Tomkins has expressed his future plans/desires to play Union on numerous occasions. Beyond the NRL, the game has nothing left to offer. Super League can no longer afford him, nor can it provide the requisite big stage or challenge for players of his ability. Sam Burgess and James Graham know this all too well.
JonB95's baby.'"
It appears your baby, that you gave up for adoption, due to pressure from Social Services, has disappeared from the radar, similar to the princes in the tower.
The euphoria of the initial increases seems to have passed, interest appears to have waned & my favourite thread looks to have been consigned to the bin .
You could always fight for custody, maybe unfurl a banner on the north stand appealing for justice from Eddie & Stevo.
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| Sam Tomkins was terrible tonight.
Full backs need to be able to take high balls, be prepared to dive on dangerous balls that might mean getting hurt and make the rest of the team confident in their last line of defence......he failed on all points tonight and his try towards the end is simply papering over the cracks.
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| Quote: gutterfax "Sam Tomkins was terrible tonight.
Full backs need to be able to take high balls, be prepared to dive on dangerous balls that might mean getting hurt and make the rest of the team confident in their last line of defence......he failed on all points tonight and his try towards the end is simply papering over the cracks.'"
What I saw was a performance of excellence and inadequacy in equal spades.
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| or the 3 try assists again? jesus did he even drop one high bomb today? some people can't see past the jealousy and bitterness. He is still finding his place in the team and he's feet its been 5 games in a new country, new competition and a new team and people want to judge him now? well he is still playing that kevin locke did for the past 2 seasons.
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| Kevin Locke is sidelined with a knee injury and not due to return until Round 12 at the earliest, but probably later than that.
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| Quote: Old Blighty "What I saw was a performance of excellence and inadequacy in equal spades.'"
Agreed.
Just like the NZ Warriors themselves who often display both.
That's why they won't win the NRL comp anytime soon. Way too many weaknesses.
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