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| set a dangerous precedent by giving a penalty for that it was an accidental had clash, its a by product of the game and it will always happen. if thats a penalty the best 2 props to have are ian kirke and paul prescott as they get a head clash almost every game.
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| Quote: BelleVueLifer "Quote: BelleVueLifer "What a laughable decision it was, how ganson picked out a penalty from that I'll never know!'"
Not sure that a player being left unconscious is laughable but each to their own. The clash between Mika's head and Amor's jaw was accidental. However the penalty was given due to contact with the head, accidental or not....as the referee said.
Mika was put on report because the referee, as he said, was of the opinion that Mika lead with his head and its now up to the disciplinary panel to decide if he did or not. Personally, I don't think he did, I think it was an accidental clash of heads.'"
Can you read? Are you broken? Where did I say it's funny when a player is unconscious?
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| Wither's will have a banging head ache this morning! As for the Mika incident, it was a penalty but accidental. These things happen in such a tough, intense sport.
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| Quote: dubairl "set a dangerous precedent by giving a penalty for that it was an accidental had clash, its a by product of the game and it will always happen. '"
A penalty is a dangerous precedent? More like an innocuous outcome if you ask me.
However, I do agree that accidental head clashes will always happen, in much the same way that involuntary high tackles will always be made. Both worthy of a penalty and, in most cases, no more.
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| Deliberate for mine, he clearly is looking where he's putting his head, at best its reckless which as in law is equally blameworthy. Put him in the stocks ! Next case.
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| Any head clash will clearly be accidental 99% of the time. However, what parameters are there to say who is the offender? Most of the time the tackler is the one who comes off worse and the play is subsequently stopped. Injured
player receives treatment. Tackle count continues. No penalty. Does it become a case of if the attacker loses possession it then becomes a penalty? What I'm saying is, most head clashes don't often result in a penalty.
For the record. In theory Paterson's hand off in the first half was straight into (Tim Smith?) chops. Contact with the head? Try disallowed? Penalty?
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| No charge, accidental clash heads according to the RFL today.
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| Common sense prevails.
Probably a penalty, nothing more.
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| Quote: moxi1 "Can you read? Are you broken? Where did I say it's funny when a player is unconscious?'"
Yes, I can read thanks. Im just choosing not to get into a forum argument, and judging from your last post, thats what you're looking for in my opinion.
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| Quote: r a n c i d "You want him to go in low on a prop running the ball back from a KICK OFF?
Rugby league has an overwhelming focus on science, and part of that is tackling...Ie A player is coached to tackle/make an impact on a ball carriers upper body. In science terms, this is more energy sapping for a ball carrier and without getting too technical, it is one scientific way of winning the energy/physical battle which ultimately leads to contributing towards winning the game. There are also psychological effects on a player who is dominated/dominates a tackle...and again, without getting into a full blown science lesson, this is a contributing factor to how a game pans out. Due to the aforementioned, players are encourged to make that heavy physical contact and one way is via the tackling technique that Con Mika misjudged on this occasion. In years gone by, Ie before science played such a heavy part in the game, players bent their backs, made sure they got their head in the right place and made a traditional tackle around the legs/waiste.
As ive said on this topic previously, I dont think Mika was in the wrong to the point where he deserved punishment for his actions as I shared the opinion that it was an accident, contrary to how youve suggested I made it sound. The reason why I said that I could see him getting a letter about his tackling technique was based on the fact that he did get it wrong, and there were/are things that can be done to ensure these accidents dont happen again - player safety in mind. Couple that with my opinion of the RFL disciplinary system, I envisaged some form of mild reprimand.
On this weeks backchat, Stevo said that Mika should have been sent off, perhaps send an email into the sky team as you appear to have some very passionate views on the subject.
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| Quote: EL CAMO "Common sense prevails.
Probably a penalty, nothing more.'"
Indeed. Ganson got that decision spot on, and indeed most impartial observers seem to have thought he reffed it well. I agree.
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| I think most Wakey fans agree that the tackle was misjudged rather than malicious, and that Ganson responded appropriately.
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| Wasn't a penalty in my opinion. Total freak accident that he made contact with the head.
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| Quote: r a n c i d "You want him to go in low on a prop running the ball back from a KICK OFF?
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Wasn't a penalty in my opinion. Total freak accident that he made contact with the head.'"
This what the rule book says;
15 Misconduct
Definition of misconduct 1. A player is guilty of misconduct if he
It may not have been intentional but it was reckless or careless and he made contact with Amor's head therefore a penalty. Ref was right to put it on report: disciplinary panel was right to judge that it was unintentional so no further action. No debate for me.
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