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There's P & R now it's just done over 3 years.

Get your finances in order. Get your stadium in order. Win a trophy and then put in an application. If it's good enough you'll get in.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Conroy "There's P & R now it's just done over 3 years.

Get your finances in order. Get your stadium in order. Win a trophy and then put in an application. If it's good enough you'll get in.'"


Ooh you've got me so excited, I could crush a grape

For 40 years I watched Leigh to enjoy what was on the pitch , with no thought of the administration of the sport , either at club or competition level, now its all about ticking boxes off the pitch and hoping some suit in Red Hall likes the butties you serve up at half time

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Quote: Starbug "Ooh you've got me so excited, I could crush a grape

For 40 years I watched Leigh to enjoy what was on the pitch , with no thought of the administration of the sport , either at club or competition level, now its all about ticking boxes off the pitch and hoping some suit in Red Hall likes the butties you serve up at half time'"


You can still enjoy what's on the pitch.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Conroy "You can still enjoy what's on the pitch.'"


I can do that at Leigh east watching the under 7 s , or watching a SL match on SKY

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If you take the emotion out of it a lot of what is said is spot on wether you agree with his solutions or not.

Structurally the game isn't right.

We all have ideas and Im not sure what the best approach is but what we have now isn't working.

And one big thing he picked up on was the competitiveness.

Any changes should be aimed at increasing this for the players and the fans.

Maybe thats why were falling so far behind the Aussies.

Making the eight in a 14 team league? Top 4 playing for position in the playoffs? No penalities for finishing bottom? One Cup competition?

When we have got Bradford the club that embraced Super League the most in serious trouble we need the guys running the sport to wake up.

Because we are sleepwalking into serious trouble.

But you don't have to justify the decision by picking holes in the Game.

(My pet hate I hate hail mary kick to tall wingers on the last)

Theres nothing wrong with RL playing a lesser role in your life.

Youre not any less of a fan.

You just grew up.

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I made a longer post on TRL but my issue with the article is this:

Basically he says: there are some problems with the game. But there always have been - and in the past arguably much bigger ones than today. It's the leap from that to "the game is dead to me" that I really can't comprehend. Because those equivalent issues in the past were presumably mentally brushed under the carpet.

So people referring to the mentality or psycholigical state of the author are IMO making a perfectly valid point as there are only two options as top why the matters referred to would have this end result: either it is something about the issues mentioned (which can be discussed but in my judgement is not the case as structural issues should not have that end result.) Or there is a changed perspective from the writer - presumably, age - which affects the judgement on these matters.

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I can't help but feel that Saints losing every Grand Final since 2006 has somewhat clouded his view of the game.

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Quote: Shmoo "I can't help but feel that Saints losing every Grand Final since 2006 has somewhat clouded his view of the game.'"


Agreed. Similar to those fans of lower league clubs who detest the game because they've been told their team isn't good enough.

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Quote: Conroy "Agreed. Similar to those fans of lower league clubs who detest the game because they've been told their team isn't good enough.'"


Nobody needs to tell me ' my ' team isnt good enough for a franchised SL, that is plainly obvious, and from a playing point of view the Championship is a vibrant, competitive, worth winning in its own right competition, its just nobody wants to pay to watch it

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if its not good enough for a franchised SL it isnt good enough for SL.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "if its not good enough for a franchised SL it isnt good enough for SL.'"


Fair comment, balanced out by half the clubs in SL not being good enough for SL

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Quote: Shmoo "I can't help but feel that Saints losing every Grand Final since 2006 has somewhat clouded his view of the game.'"


A bit weird that he's not harking back to a time when Saints were successful, but rather a time when they are worse than what they are now!

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In itself the article is fine, with many good points worth discussion.
It is the fact that it only highlights negatives rather than a balanced view that make it less worthwhile.

If he could bring himself to see some of the positives in the game, or even the negatives of the past he may find a different conclussion, rather than the game is dead.

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Quote: Asim "It's not a good demographic for RL to be losing support from, these are people who'd be expected to take kids of their own, or nieces and nephews to games to keep the line of support going - and if many fall out with the game it will have a negative longer term impact.'"


At the same time, I know at Saints of fans who have bought their first season ticket for years, including ones for their kids too. Attendances across the board appear to be growing so these must be a new generation of fans and old fans returning to the game now that it's more professional. Someone may wish to argue about the professional aspect but I bet if you looked at clubs' business plans from 1990 you'd laugh.

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Quote: Starbug "Nobody needs to tell me ' my ' team isnt good enough for a franchised SL, that is plainly obvious, and from a playing point of view the Championship is a vibrant, competitive, worth winning in its own right competition, its just nobody wants to pay to watch it'"


Interestingly the Championship isn't as methodical as SL, so maybe the Saints fan would be better hoping that Saints were in this league? I do enjoy watching the Championship because it's not as polished on the whole.

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