you certainly know your rules bigrob but as you agreed it does need changing.must be frustrating trying to run a sport for the benefit of your own countries players and to be permanently at the mercy of court rulings etc which affect the rules and regs you want clubs to abide by.
or is it the rl's fault for just being too weak

Yeah I agree there, it's not a simply solution sadly.


Not really .honestly mate i'm not laughing at you, just the naivety of that statement.

While this is not a ' pop ' at licensing , it was pointed out at the time that clubs would always do what was best for themselves , and the quota system is a clear indication that all clubs will do that exactly that , some clubs are currently below or up to the limit , but most are over it one way or another

Yes HKR are particularily taking the Mick , but most clubs if they find themselves uncompetitive will do anything to move upwards , at the end of the day you cannot change human nature , coaches don't want to lose their jobs , chairmen don't want fans on their backs , and fans want a winning team

You can all pretend you are ' holyer than thou ' but your not

I know he is but so is McGoldrick but he gets away with being "American" and I'm sure I've read somewhere before Youngquest claimed to have some Swedish routes taking him off the quota.

It's all stupid, like someone else said they should just say you should have 12 home trained players in the match day 17

i'm on your side mate,all the way,but we all know its chairmen of certain clubs that dictate policy to the rfl and the rest of its member clubs.
i suppose ATEOTD it all boils down to pure greed.

your not wrong mate,greed and an "i'll throw my toys out the pram syndrome" attitude.
for me though the rfl have to be stronger,however unlikely that is

But hkr have 10, go figure?

Signing overseas players who have been here before 2008 would give 5 fed trained players too

Yes but that's a problem that is going to diminish, not grow.

People have way over-reacted to all this I think. There aren't any hidden loopholes been uncovered or sneaky cheating going on, nor are the RFL being weak. IMO, they have come up with a fairly innovative set of rules that are designed to encourage home grown talent development and gradually reduce reliance on overseas players whilst at the same time being careful to avoid contravening any EU employment laws and being unfair to any players already here at the time of rule changes.

The non-Aussie/Kiwi passport method of escaping the Overseas Quota rules is one that's been known about by anyone for years and that's why the RFL created the home-grown and Fed-Trained categories. Yes, the rate of reduction of overseas players has probably been much slower that hoped for (clubs should probably have been down to 5 by now), but progress is being made.

SEB are you aware that hkr have 6 overseas players not counting on the 2008 rule? This isn't the rfl sticking to the same rules, they've made some more up!