At SL level yes, but they have a ready made C1 team of Welsh players from the old Crusaders reserves and a ready made fan base of disgruntled Crusaders fans. Should be easily sustainable at C1 and hopefully in 3-5 years they could move up to the Championship with locals, though only if they can viably do this.

he was rather unpopular in those parts after the demise of the celtic warriors ru team.

Its great news that we ould have another new club soon in south wales, imagine that alot of crusaders fans will switch to the new club which means that along with the fact there will be a good few crusaders lads in the reserves willing to make the switch, they can hit the ground running for players and fans.

On the negative side this does make the crusaders move to north wales seem certain which is a shame, but if both clubs can come out of this stronger that can only be good for rl.

But Crusaders wouldn't if they moved north and as suggested on here, lose fans and young players to a new team?

I'm all for a new team in Championship 1, I wish them well.

There is of course that worry, but i will see what the new plans are before i prejudge them.

What this would mean is that the Welsh SL club will only last another 2 seasons at most , unless the backers are willing to tip in a huge amount of money

When the problems of the Crusaders first came to light I was quite happy for the RFL to guarantee their continued participation in SL even to the point of the RFL taking ' ownership ' of the club if neccessary and financing it for 2 or possibly even 5 years , I would only have accepted this if they had remained in South Wales

However if a new Championship club was to be set up in that area I would prefer that club to get help from the RFL to continue the development work already started

A Wrexham based organisation would have to stand alone if support was to be given to the South , IMO

You just had to do it didn't you , you couldn't help yourself could you , Albert bloody Rosenfeld is back

Who knows 5 years + we could see a SL Welsh Derby match, North v South eh? Would be a mouering prospect, never say never?

Any new team based in South Wales I would hope managed to encompass the name "Celtic". Think it would be apt, with the Crusaders droppin that part of the name before moving on. South Wales Celtic, Bridgend/wherever Celtic, would go pretty well I feel. People who supported Celtic before would already feel an attachment with the brand (as well as a detachment from the Crusaders) rather than having to start again with a new name; as well as there being a story behind it.

So the now or never attitude of the rfl has put pro rl in south wales back 3 years at least. Hoorah for expansion!

As has been previously stated, i hope they are successful and allowed to grow organically, however those flatcappers that dared suggest that cc should grow organically in the first place were derided on here and deemed to be moronic... Hoorah for the moronic amongst us!