|
 |
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 509 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2014 | Feb 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote SIMMSFAXTEDDY="SIMMSFAXTEDDY"Money paid to the HMRC in taxes (by most people/organisations) goes to funding the public service sector - FACT
so if this money simpy does not get paid to the HMRC then who pays the nurses at Bradford Royal? (simplifying it for you there)
i dont see what your issue is with these FACTS?'"
 Who did Halifax owe in 1990...I cant remember, honest
Quote SIMMSFAXTEDDYif Bradford go into liquidation and avoid paying this owed money to the HMRC (just like rangers) then why should they be allowed to continue in the top division?'"
RFL precedent?
Quote SIMMSFAXTEDDYregardless of fan base etc.
Answer- morally they shouldnt, but like i said in an earlier post, it is the some would say 'corrupt' RFL that we're dealing with.
No meltdown there, just stating pure FACT. '"
Quote SIMMSFAXTEDDYThis, if it happens (the knocking of bulls fans off their superior pedestal) is what [size=150i "cant bloody wait!" for[/size'"
So you can prove the RFL is corrupt and you get a little chubby on when thinking about the demise of a Rugby League Club.... 
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 8224 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2012 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote SIMMSFAXTEDDY="SIMMSFAXTEDDY"Money paid to the HMRC in taxes (by most people/organisations) goes to funding the public service sector - FACT
so if this money simpy does not get paid to the HMRC then who pays the nurses at Bradford Royal? (simplifying it for you there)
i dont see what your issue is with these FACTS?
if Bradford go into liquidation and avoid paying this owed money to the HMRC (just like rangers) then why should they be allowed to continue in the top division?
regardless of fan base etc.
Answer- morally they shouldnt, but like i said in an earlier post, it is the some would say 'corrupt' RFL that we're dealing with.
No meltdown there, just stating pure FACT.
'"
You've already stated your immoral joy at the possibility of a SL club dying and by that the loss of employment for those working at said club. So for you to even TRY and take some sort of moral stance on this is quite frankly offensive.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2143 | Hull KR |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Roofaldo="Roofaldo"Wasn't it the RFL who told Crusaders to withdraw their bid? Not the other way round.
But it seems to me that you're confusing facts with your own opinion. Unless you've actually got both bids in front of you (and that seems unlikely) then you're in no position to comment on who's bid was stronger'"
Crusaders and Super League licensing – club statement
Crusaders Rl Tuesday 26 Jul 2011 11:42am
The Board of Directors at Crusaders have today confirmed that the club has not sought to renew its Super League licence for the seasons 2012 to 2014.
It is with regret that Crusaders have had to withdraw their application to the Rugby Football League for a three-year extension to their licence.
The club’s directors will now meet with Rugby Football League officials to discuss the future of rugby league in Wrexham and North Wales following the end of this season.
Crusaders Chief Executive, Rod Findlay, said: “This has not been an easy decision but after a lengthy and exhaustive examination of the club’s finances, our view is that Crusaders is not sustainable as a Super League club at this stage. Every other aspect of the application was strong and we now need to work to ensure that we retain those elements, particularly the community and player pathway programmes in North Walesd, an area where no rugby league was played 2 years ago.
Seems not to me.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 27039 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2017 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Roofaldo="Roofaldo"Wasn't it the RFL who told Crusaders to withdraw their bid? Not the other way round.
But it seems to me that you're confusing facts with your own opinion. Unless you've actually got both bids in front of you (and that seems unlikely) then you're in no position to comment on who's bid was stronger'"
It matters not that Cru withdrew the application it was weaker than another clubs, of course thats just my opinion and Cassandra disagrees.
The point is that just because they bailed out does not mean they would have been in.
No offence the Cru but the RFL got this one right.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 27039 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2017 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Cassandra="Cassandra"Crusaders and Super League licensing – club statement
Crusaders Rl Tuesday 26 Jul 2011 11:42am
The Board of Directors at Crusaders have today confirmed that the club has not sought to renew its Super League licence for the seasons 2012 to 2014.
It is with regret that Crusaders have had to withdraw their application to the Rugby Football League for a three-year extension to their licence.
The club’s directors will now meet with Rugby Football League officials to discuss the future of rugby league in Wrexham and North Wales following the end of this season.
Crusaders Chief Executive, Rod Findlay, said: “This has not been an easy decision [ubut after a lengthy and exhaustive examination of the club’s finances, our view is that Crusaders is not sustainable as a Super League club at this stage. Every other aspect of the application was strong[/u and we now need to work to ensure that we retain those elements, particularly the community and player pathway programmes in North Walesd, an area where no rugby league was played 2 years ago.
Seems not to me.'"
So they were skint and had very few fans then, that stacks up against Wakeys bid just how.
Jeez they walked before being pushed, and i for one hope they become strong again.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1411 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2019 | Apr 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote El Rey="El Rey" and i for one hope they become strong again.'"
Thats part of the problem though isnt it, they were never strong to begin with, revenue and attendances were never aligned or sustainable, getting people through the door is not the same as having full paying customers.
Its why people find it frustrating that the RFL prefer clubs to have benefactors rather than realistic sustainable business models. Bradfords problems are highlighted more than others because the profile is bigger and so are the numbers, but there is a wider issue for the RFL to try and grasp. They seem to skim over questionable business plans as long as someone picks up the tab each year.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2143 | Hull KR |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote El Rey="El Rey"So they were skint and had very few fans then, that stacks up against Wakeys bid just how.
Jeez they walked before being pushed, and i for one hope they become strong again.'"
________________________________________________________________________________________________
Every other aspect of the application was strong and we now need to work to ensure that we retain those elements, particularly the community and player pathway programmes
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The BoD seemed to think they had a good chance of getting a licence IMO.
It's good to know they were going to be pushed before they told the RFL they were not going to re-apply . London was skint Bradford are skint they will stay. The Crusaders did the right thing and got demoted two divisions.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 27039 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2017 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Cassandra="Cassandra"________________________________________________________________________________________________
Every other aspect of the application was strong and we now need to work to ensure that we retain those elements, particularly the community and player pathway programmes
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The BoD seemed to think they had a good chance of getting a licence IMO.
It's good to know they were going to be pushed before they told the RFL they were not going to re-apply . London was skint Bradford are skint they will stay. The Crusaders did the right thing and got demoted two divisions.'"
Sadly Wakey have been skint far too often but at the time of the last franchise Wakey presented a strong case, it would have been a nightmare for the RFL if they refused us entry only for Cru to fold in a matter of months, they already gambled with London and Bradford and possibly a few others.
Anyway its been a pleasure to discuss this with you and i think i'm guilty of de-railing a Bradford thread 
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2143 | Hull KR |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote El Rey="El Rey"Sadly Wakey have been skint far too often but at the time of the last franchise Wakey presented a strong case, it would have been a nightmare for the RFL if they refused us entry only for Cru to fold in a matter of months, they already gambled with London and Bradford and possibly a few others.
Anyway its been a pleasure to discuss this with you and i think i'm guilty of de-railing a Bradford thread
'"
No problem, always nice to have a bit of banter. That's what makes the world go around. 
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 33944 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2016 | Mar 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote El Rey="El Rey"It matters not that Cru withdrew the application it was weaker than another clubs, of course thats just my opinion and Cassandra disagrees.
The point is that just because they bailed out does not mean they would have been in.
No offence the Cru but the RFL got this one right.'"
No, they got it wrong, right from the start
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20966 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote El Rey="El Rey"Sadly Wakey have been skint far too often but at the time of the last franchise Wakey presented a strong case, it would have been a nightmare for the RFL if they refused us entry only for Cru to fold in a matter of months, they already gambled with London and Bradford and possibly a few others.
Anyway its been a pleasure to discuss this with you and i think i'm guilty of de-railing a Bradford thread
'"
you should know better
London are assured a bankroll up to 2014.....there was no gamble involved.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | Hull FC |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"Cas Tigers fan.
Bulls should drop down to Championship One.
P & R should be re-introduced in 2013 (1 up/1 down) - Bulls will be back to SL for 2014.
Franchising to be scrapped - its failed.'"
P&R failed for many more years than franchising has been in place. It will fail again if reintroduced now. Probably best to give franchising a chance before going back to a system that we know doesn't work.
|
|
|
 |
|