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Quote: bowes "Do yourself a favour and stop showing yourself up by trying to claim supporters of expansion clubs are flatcappers, you do yourself no favours and show you can't argue rationally without using the word flatcapper to anyone that has a different view to yourself, even where that label is not remotely relevant.

People that don't want a repeat of Gateshead or Paris St Germain are not flatcappers, they are sensible people.

Actually can I ask the moderators to put flatcapper on the list of banned words on here edited out by the swear filter like they did with expansion*zi? If it were banned it would mean people have to think about what they say and allow better argument'"


so no repeat of PSG or Gateshead, but you are more than happy when widnes, leeds, wigan and bradford can get another chance


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Quote: SmokeyTA "its not really is it, it isnt a 'heartland' club, there were a few thousand real RL fans in Catalonia prior to Les Catalans entering SL, now there are many many more

Lets not try and rewrite history and pretend it always was, and was always perceived to be a 'sleeping giant' it wasnt,

Putting Les Catalans in SL was probably the biggest risk taken by SL in its history'"


absolutely, and one for which richard lewis should be praised for

the revival of RL in france owes much of it to him

and he shouldnt stop with just 1 French SL club

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Quote: bowes "Don't lie, there were many clubs, not that long ago there were 4 semi-pro clubs in the Perpignan area (before the merger to form UTC) and for big games they could get decent crowds. French rugby league was just in a low point when Catalans joined SL.

It wasn't a risk at all, the success was inevitable.
will'"




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i refer people back to my definition of flatcapper a few pages ago

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Quote: dally messenger "only idiots raise the example of PSG against any new Paris SL club

hence why im not surprised youve raised it.'"


Why wouldnt it be raised? Only idiots would ignore the failure of PSG last time.

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Quote: dally messenger "if more of a fan of toulose than paris

the only thing that gives me hope of paris is the backers behind it

the media it would get would be massive and give RL critial mass'"


Not when they pull out and the venture fails

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7 posts , and not one of them has any semblance of logic or basis of fact

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Quote: a.n Other "Why wouldnt it be raised? Only idiots would ignore the failure of PSG last time.'"



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pick any one of these reasons numbskull :

1. hearrtland english RL clubs have failed and been given another chance and succceeded.

2. RL in france is now on a more solid footing with the succesful establishment of Les Catalans

3. the PSG model was bound to fail with all the gate receipts being taken by the ground owner

4. the PSG model involved its players also playing for their LER clubs at the same time. sure disaster

5. the bid by Stade Francaise will be to have all costs covered by them. its a strong bid and clearly not related to PSG

but hey, you stick to that tired record

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Quote: Starbug "Not when they pull out and the venture fails'"


bit like widnes 2 years ago.

buy hey ho, lets just forget about that because it doesnt help your little crusade

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Quote: dally messenger "its nice you have those moveable goal posts with you'"


His don't need to move.

He gets things wrong with them concreted in place.

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Quote: dally messenger "


But you must be an idiot if you want to ignore past failures in Paris.

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Quote: bowes "Narrowly finishing bottom in your first season is not failing, don't try to compare it to Paris or Crusaders it isn't remotely comparable, they also got good crowds from the start. Read back a few years I consistently supported Catalans' inclusion very strongly in SL as I felt there was the player base for one good Super League club in France as did the majority of people on here. Perpignan is and was a RL heartland area, Toulouse is borderline and Paris isn't, never has been and never will be.'"


no it isnt, but there was (understandably) a few financial difficulties at the outset, they did get good (but not great) crowds from the start as well however they didnt get championship/sl level crowds when they were in the elite. Perpignan isnt and wasnt an RL heartland area, though it is quite funny to watch the flatcappers now desperate to paint it as such 3.18310546875:10
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