Yep. We've finally got an exciting, fast and athletic 1-5. Something we've been lacking for decades. Plus with the Burgii looking good down under and some good young forward prospects here, the pack is looking pretty healthy too.

True, although remember Lineham, Mcgilveray etc aren't in the ETS, at the moment it's Ben Cockayne

Very exciting times for England in the future, if clubs start developing half backs, i genuinely believe we could go be just as good as Australia. This world cup, although we have a great chance, may just come too soon for us, a lot of our most exciting players are in their early 20s.

But in 4 years time, when the lights of Burgess, Clark, Bateman, Ward, Tomkins, Currie, Lineham are all 4 years older and starting to hit their peak, Australia's golden era of Smith, Slater, Thurston, Cronk will have all moved on. Yes the Australian conveyer-belt will produce more top players, but i can't see them been as good as them 4.

I'm not being funny but, golden era? You say that as if its a one off, can I just remind you of the very recent people that held some of those positions directly before the 'golden era' - Darren Lockyer, Andrew Johns, Danny buderus. Unfortunately Australia have had a golden era for a few decades and it will continue for a further few I'm afraid

A golden era that will continue for many more years, espeially given the balls-up that is dual-reg instead of clubs investing money in what was known as Alliance. As opposed to the time when Richard Lewis was in charge, we now have a group of sycophants, whose only motivation is their next lunch.

The talent we are seeing now is a result of investment that started 10 years ago. We've decided to take the cheap option on development, there's no doubt, the results will be equally as cheap

True, but the players I mentioned have been the spine of the time for nearly a decade. Australia will lose their spine more or less at the same time. They will bring more world class players through, but when you have always had the same 1, 6, 7 and 9 playing together for Queensland and OZ for the nearly a decade, to suddenly lose it could effect them. Well I hope

None of that has got anything to do with the fact that in Australia Rugby League is a massive sport and will attract the best athletes that the country has to offer, we will be second fiddle to Australia for a long time BUT we can win the WC If we can get to the final and play to the very best of our ability.

And the winner of the 'Biggest Kneejerk Reaction Prize' is....

Seriously, are you for real? There's half a season to go, but already Leeds might not make the 8? Despite the fact that Jones-Bishop, Peacock & Ablett will all be back in 6 weeks, leaving lots of games against the likes of London and just Wigan away on the final day of the season?

With our two games in hand we sit 4th, which is better than we were doing last year with a full squad.

Would also point out that but for Sinfield's brain fart and poor goal kicking we'd have beaten Wigan at the Etihad, and we gifted Hull two tries as well as carrying a half-fit Delaney and playing most of the game without two of our key strike players.

We may well be without Watkins & McGuire for the season, and winning the GF without them will be tough. That said, by the time we make the playoffs we will (those two aside) be at full strength.

Which two?

the kick to the corner breakway, which was a diabolical kick and where the cover defence was nowhere/was slowcoach Vickery. And the one for Houghton where we parted like the red sea, Vickery having given you lot possession.

Also just seen Stevie Ward is estimated as 8 weeks, so he'll also be back for the playoffs.

Sorry to be pedantic, but that is not true at all! You sit 6th, not 4th. Leeds have 19 points, Cats and Hull both have 20.

Just because your players aren't tall enough to out jump Lineham or fast enough to catch Crooks doesn't mean you "gifted" us a try.

Hull nilled you other than the try they gifted you so we won 6 nil

Yes, I know that. But with four points from the games in hand, we'd be fourth. Which is why I said 'with our games in hand'



No, but the fact that there was no cover defence, and the kick was nowhere near close enough to your line does.



Well done on completely missing the point.

Very simply, the obituaries of Leeds' season are incredibly premature. We're carrying lots of injuries through the most difficult run of fixtures in our calendar and are still doing better than we were last year, when we finished as champions. Given that even McGuire is fifty-fifty to be back for the playoffs, I think you'd be incredibly foolish to write of Leeds' season at this stage.

You do realise you'd have to win these games before you get the 4 points don't you?

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Ah bless!! Nobody else has any injuries then or has some witch put a curse on you so that you can't win from 5th again. Never mind you'll have to try and win it from 8th.