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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"
Still not as stupid as signing Stuart Reardon on the day we launched a domestic violence campaign (and then it being found out he failed the medical!) so a load of bad press for absolutely nothing!'"
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| International Board Member | 18299 | York City Knights |
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"Wooh wooh Gavin. I haven't said anything of the sort. I was on a bit of a fishing mission there, I'll admit (didn't think I'd catch a big un like you, I was after proper Saints fans, not plastic York ones
 ), but the point I was getting at is that it must be for more than supplying him with it, as Cunningham was let off for it.
Good little jab you've had there though. We all know the RFL don't like Hull FC and treat us differently
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| Quote hullbg="hullbg"A sad end to Gleesons career and IF he was aware of what he was allegedly taking then he has only himself to blame.'"
He's also only himself to blame if he wasn't aware.
Ignorance is no defence.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"The only thing Gleeson did wrong was agree to lie about getting clearance for the supplement directly from Ben Cooper rather than via Sean Long. Even then he clearly had second thoughts and it was him that shopped the other two. I feel sorry for him TBH - he didn't set out to break any rules and if Ben Cooper was halfway competent this would never have happened.
I'm deeply disappointed with Rule. It's not clear if the plan to lie to the authorities was all his idea but he was certainly the facilitator and coordinator. He should have had the balls to sack Cooper and plead for clemency from the UKDA based on the truth.'"
Having read the Ben Cooper report I now agree that fault lies with him rather than Gleeson/Long. Apologies. |
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Having read the Ben Cooper report I now agree that fault lies with him rather than Gleeson/Long. Apologies.'"
How convenient.
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| Quote Keith Swiftcorn="Keith Swiftcorn"How convenient.
Perhaps you could start a Gleeson & Long are innocent campaign?'"
Long hasn't been charged with anything and thus is innocent already.
Gleeson never denied that he'd inadvertently taken a banned substance and hasn't tried to challenge the guilty verdict. As you said in your other post the ultimate responsibility for checking any supplement lies with the athlete, although in this case he was given duff information - albeit second-hand - by someone he had every right to trust. |
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"the point I was getting at is that it must be for more than supplying him with it, as Cunningham was let off for it.'"
He was found innocent of any wrongdoing because the conditioner at the time was proven to be a fraud. The RFL had employed him prior to Saints and I believe had recommended him to Saints. That's aside from the relative lack of education, information and clarification of responsibility that there was then compared to now in RL when it comes to banned substances. I believe that it is ultimately the player's responsibility to check against the list of banned substances readily available on the UKDA website before taking anything, whether recommended by their conditioner or not. |
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| Quote Keith Swiftcorn="Keith Swiftcorn"How convenient.
Perhaps you could start a Gleeson & Long are innocent campaign?'"
Nah, they both have history together for being numb as pumps.  |
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Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"He was found innocent of any wrongdoing because the conditioner at the time was proven to be a fraud.'"
Probably innocent too when he was also helping Longy's father promote his dodgy health and sports nutrition stall at Wigan market.
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Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"He was found innocent of any wrongdoing because the conditioner at the time was proven to be a fraud.'"
Probably innocent too when he was also helping Longy's father promote his dodgy health and sports nutrition stall at Wigan market.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"Is anyone else slightly worried about Martin Gleeson?
After all the personal problems of last year and now the drugs ban to effectively end his career, I'm worried it may have the potential to become a bit "Terry Newton".
I hope the RFL keep an eye on him and offer him support. I'm guessing that's what "State of Mind" was set up for.'"
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Will there be/should there be any punishment of Hull FC for this?
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| Quote Him="Him"Will there be/should there be any punishment of Hull FC for this?'"
We got there in the end 
seeing as everyone involved in the fiasco has now either left or sacked what would be the point and would it be legal ? |
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