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Why are the tours not possible now?

I would love to see an England or GB side playing midweek against NRL sides.

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Quote: Dunbar "As a Welshman, why not support Wales?'"


I will do. I will also go to the Ireland games except the game in Limerick which clashes with the Wembley double header.

I loved going to GB games. I don't findEngland games of any interest.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Paxo "I will do. I will also go to the Ireland games except the game in Limerick which clashes with the Wembley double header.

I loved going to GB games. I don't findEngland games of any interest.'"
As a Welshman living in Ireland, why would you expect to have any interest in England games? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: headhunter "As a Welshman living in Ireland, why would you expect to have any interest in England games?
As an Englishman living in England, why am I interested in the Wales v NZ game and the Wales v Australia game? Or state of origin? Or the NRL?

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Quote: liger1992 "Why are the tours not possible now?

I would love to see an England or GB side playing midweek against NRL sides.'"

With the seasons running in parallel, that would mean England taking a squad out to tour Australia during the Super League season. Can any of us see that happening?

If you want to see the single difference between the success of the International games in the two codes, take a look at the Union World Cup – all the Home Nations and France have sent their top players to New Zealand for a two month World Cup just as the club seasons are about to start. It is inconceivable that would happen in Rugby League

You can say all you like about history, stadiums, media coverage and the like – Rugby Union is prepared to invest and make sacrifices for the development of its international game – fans and clubs alike. Until we adopt the same attitude, we will always struggle to keep up and I cannot see it changing

Which is a huge shame as success internationally would benefit the game immensely and that benefit would be seen at all levels of the game in terms of popularity, investment and coverage. I’m afraid as a sport, we are a little too narrow minded to get there

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Quote: headhunter "As a Welshman living in Ireland, why would you expect to have any interest in England games? Why would I have any interest in going to Ireland games either? My point was play as GB and more people, like me, will be inclined to attend.
The game is not big enough for four nations trying to play at elite level.There's only about 100 people playing in Ireland, and about 150 know it's a different sport to Union.

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Quote: Dunbar "I don’t understand this ‘International Rugby League is a joke’ line

So what if the two favourites for 4 Nations and the World cup are New Zealand and Australia – well that’s a 100% improvement on the last three decades when it was just Australia by how many. '"


Great. Still doesn't mean it's not a farce having a World Cup where only 2 teams are competitive. I'd say the same about any sport with a similar competition.

How you can't understand that I don't know.

Quote: Dunbar "Gotta love self-defeating parochial balloon heads.

I look forward to a future post from you moaning about how league can't compete with union's cash without a trace of irony.

Yoooorkshire. Yooooorkshire. Yoooorkshire.'"


Do you think I'm someone else?

I don't understand why you responded that to the quote of my post...

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Quote: FearTheVee "As an Englishman living in England, why am I interested in the Wales v NZ game and the Wales v Australia game? Or state of origin? Or the NRL?'"


Exactly.

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Quote: LeedsDave "Great. Still doesn't mean it's not a farce having a World Cup where only 2 teams are competitive. I'd say the same about any sport with a similar competition.
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Were you a RL fan pre-super league?

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Quote: LeedsDave "Great. Still doesn't mean it's not a farce having a World Cup where only 2 teams are competitive. I'd say the same about any sport with a similar competition.

How you can't understand that I don't know.'"

I actually do understand it – and I agree that it would be great if half a dozen teams or more were capable of winning the World Cup

What I would also like to add is the following

In order to grow the game internationally there has to be a competition that will generate interest within the developing nations and one where they have a chance to play against the superstars of the game

Fundamentally for me... while the winners of the World Cup will absolutely come from within very small selection of teams, it doesn’t mean that the group games will not be competitive in their own right. Despite the eventual outcome of the competition being (relatively) easy to predict, it could and should be celebrated as a festival of Rugby league

To sum it up – I agree that the World Cup has (at a stretch) only three realistic winners, but I for one will not therefore just label the whole competition a farce as a result

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Quote: Dunbar "but I for one will not therefore just label the whole competition a farce as a result'"


No question, nor would the fans in Fiji no doubt who watched the semi on big screens in Suva, with streets closed down and TV aerials sold out.

The ability of RL fans to talk down their own sport never ceases to amaze me.

International RL is perhaps THE most important factor if our game is to survive and prosper. Why people can't see that is beyond me.

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Quote: FearTheVee "As an Englishman living in England, why am I interested in the Wales v NZ game and the Wales v Australia game? Or state of origin? Or the NRL?'"
Maybe interest wasn't the right word, I'd like to think most fans would be interested in any game of RL. The OP seemed to be suggesting that he was expected to support England though, which doesn't make any sense considering he's not from there.
Quote: FearTheVee "Why would I have any interest in going to Ireland games either? My point was play as GB and more people, like me, will be inclined to attend.
The game is not big enough for four nations trying to play at elite level.There's only about 100 people playing in Ireland, and about 150 know it's a different sport to Union.'"
Why would you be more inclined to attend GB matches than Wales matches?

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Quote: headhunter "Maybe interest wasn't the right word, I'd like to think most fans would be interested in any game of RL. The OP seemed to be suggesting that he was expected to support England though, which doesn't make any sense considering he's not from there.
Why would you be more inclined to attend GB matches than Wales matches?'"


I wouldn't be, nor have been. I would go to both, but I'm not so keen on going to England games. I am Welsh and British, not English

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Quote: FearTheVee "International RL is perhaps THE most important factor if our game is to survive and prosper. Why people can't see that is beyond me.'"

Absolutely

I have no problem with people saying that they are not interested in the internationals game (I have a real problem with people deriding it though). If somebody said “I am interested in my club and that is all” then that’s fair enough I would respect their view and move on. But that same individual then cannot moan about the lack of coverage the sport gets in comparison to its peers as internationals are singularly the best way to raise the profile of the sport – a profile that all clubs at all levels of the game would benefit from

It is not a change in policy or action that will build a flourishing international sport, it is a change in attitude

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Quote: Dunbar "Absolutely

I have no problem with people saying that they are not interested in the internationals game (I have a real problem with people deriding it though). If somebody said “I am interested in my club and that is all” then that’s fair enough I would respect their view and move on. But that same individual then cannot moan about the lack of coverage the sport gets in comparison to its peers as internationals are singularly the best way to raise the profile of the sport – a profile that all clubs at all levels of the game would benefit from

It is not a change in policy or action that will build a flourishing international sport, it is a change in attitude'"


A good and fair post.

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