FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > expansion
49 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner20966No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2015Feb 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: vikingsmurf "north is subjective I would suggest "any" town centre....not just northern ones icon_biggrin.gif and not just Saturday nights either

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner20966No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2015Feb 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Widnes 'till i die "It shouldnt be a problem, i've heard loads of quality players are being produced in Wales and London, in a couple of years SL is going to be chock-a-block with players from expansion areas icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2071No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2014Mar 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



So it could hurt "some clubs", but overall, the long term prospect is a good thing for British RL?

That 29 million sports England provided the RFL with, is that only to be used on junior development or can the RFL spend it any way they choose?

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner20966No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2015Feb 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: eels fan "So it could hurt "some clubs", but overall, the long term prospect is a good thing for British RL?

That 29 million sports England provided the RFL with, is that only to be used on junior development or can the RFL spend it any way they choose?'"


They can spend it pretty much as they want, but they will have to show an ROI in the eyes of sport england if they want any more. Stuff like getting schools playing the game etc will be key to being seen to do the right thing. Development outside of SL.....as the SL clubs have their own hand outs from uncle rupert icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2071No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2014Mar 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



ahhh, ok.

best be spending big on junior development to get some cash again.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5506No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Nick NJ "the standard will drop no doubt.

The NRL salary cap is also being increased in accordance with the new TV deal, so top aussies will go home, average aussies will fill the expansion clubs and the cream of British talent will be picked off by the NRL. The exchange rate also harms English clubs trying lure the best aussies.'"


that just about sums up the situation,doesn't it ? eusa_clap.gif

and the game will continue to plod on in europe but at an even lower level - unless of course a bigger uk tv deal is done to play 'keep-up'.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1796No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2016Nov 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: eels fan "So it could hurt "some clubs", but overall, the long term prospect is a good thing for British RL?

'"



No, it's a very bad thing for domestic Rugby League. We can't sustain a SL with 8 teams of English players never mind 14, the standard will drop dramatically in an instant.

So yes we'll have a load of kids, all of which will be used to playing an average standard. It'll be like Ireland and Wales at soccer where their best players play in the premierleague and we'll never get close to NRL hardened players.

We need a quota system that is not challenged, reduce the imports slowly without reduces the quality of the competition. The need to grow our game is paramount to increase the cap so we keep good players here.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1796No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2016Nov 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



To back that up, it widely regarded by people in the know in Australia that the standard of the NRL has dropped due to losing too many players to salary cap restrictions (lower leagues and retirement) and Super League. Phil Gould has been suggesting for a few years they need to bring 'their' players back as they need them.

They have better depth of talent and they've struggled so you can only imagine the problems it will cause over here when the NRL get their new TV money without SKY having a negative influence on negotiations.

Big payday for the NRL = a poor SL.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5506No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Nick NJ "To back that up, it widely regarded by people in the know in Australia that the standard of the NRL has dropped due to losing too many players to salary cap restrictions (lower leagues and retirement) and Super League. Phil Gould has been suggesting for a few years they need to bring 'their' players back as they need them.

They have better depth of talent and they've struggled so you can only imagine the problems it will cause over here when the NRL get their new TV money without SKY having a negative influence on negotiations.

Big payday for the NRL


just because the NRL is deemed bigger and better than the SL doesn't make the SL bad - just not as good as the NRL,that's all.
Any fool can throw money at a venture down under and make it successful but it doesn't have to devalue the SL game which will find it's own level and give the fans the entertainment value accordingly.
I reckon last season I watched as many SL games as Championship games and I would say I found the Championship games more entertaining overall - so,the moral of the story ? - well,just because it's bigger doesn't automaically mean it's better.....

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1796No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2016Nov 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I see your point, but Rugby League should no longer settle for second best and accept we're a inferior sport and competition.

It'll de-value Super League when most of the better players are playing in the NRL. It will truely be a second rate competition. We have to grow the sports revenues through working with the clubs, expansion and greater TV revenues long term.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5506No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Nick NJ "I see your point, but Rugby League should no longer settle for second best and accept we're a inferior sport and competition.

It'll de-value Super League when most of the better players are playing in the NRL. It will truely be a second rate competition. We have to grow the sports revenues through working with the clubs, expansion and greater TV revenues long term.'"


you're right of course it will devalue the SL if money isn't pumped into SL to give it a chance to keep up.
But we,the humble fan,can do very little to change this trend.If the overall quality drops,then so be it.It doesn't mean we have to stop liking and following our sport,just accept the lower standards,realise we will be even further behind the big two internationally and just get on with it.
You can't change the inevitable....

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner20966No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2015Feb 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Widnes 'till i die "It shouldnt be a problem, i've heard loads of quality players are being produced in Wales and London, in a couple of years SL is going to be chock-a-block with players from expansion areas well.....the london kids just handed the widnes kids their ar5es......explain that icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1253
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Nick NJ "No, it's a very bad thing for domestic Rugby League. We can't sustain a SL with 8 teams of English players never mind 14, the standard will drop dramatically in an instant.

So yes we'll have a load of kids, all of which will be used to playing an average standard. It'll be like Ireland and Wales at soccer where their best players play in the premierleague and we'll never get close to NRL hardened players.

We need a quota system that is not challenged, reduce the imports slowly without reduces the quality of the competition. The need to grow our game is paramount to increase the cap so we keep good players here.'"


surely the question should be. why do we import overseas players in the first place?

it is a quick fix, laziness on the part of the SL teams. spend more time and money on good scouting and good coaching and develop our own players.

there are loads of very good players in the lower leagues that with full time training and good support would be easily good enough to play at SL level yet are not given the opportunity.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach706No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2013Nov 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: gutterfax "well.....the london kids just handed the widnes kids their ar5es......explain that
London kids like Mark Calderwood & Joe Mellor? icon_smile.gif

Saw Harlequins u-20s at Oxford the other week, some very good players coming through.

I'd rather the best RL players in England went for a bigger salary in the NRL than a bigger salary playing union. We've had several decades of the Ausssie dollar having a similar exchange rate to monopoly money, commodity prices have changed that and now it's worthwhile for British people to go there to work.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7392No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



The rules regarding home grown players takes time but the first shoots are definitely showing-Cas last night had a number of good kids playing, Quins have 10 + in there 25, Wigan as ever have a great through put, Leeds with BJB, Watkins continue with great youth, Saints etc. The future is like what we all want. I suspect clubs will steer clear of the NRL going forward- Big money doesnt always produce big performances from them

49 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
49 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


9.63916015625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
18m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Armavinit
4040
26m
Film game
karetaker
5733
44m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40790
58m
Salford
karetaker
52
Recent
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
Recent
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
Recent
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
106
Recent
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
20s
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
22s
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40790
30s
Salford
karetaker
52
1m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
106
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
1m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
1m
Shopping list for 2025
hull2524
5586
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
Another Cas
16
2m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
2m
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
52
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1029
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
635
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1361
England's Women Demolish The W..
1186
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1426
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1209
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1470
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2008
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2214
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2458
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2024
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2265
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2732
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2156
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2233