He and Gene Miles had the opportunity to do that in the 80's, they signed with Manly but QRL offered hem a little more to keep them in Qld.

Frankly DM, that is crap, your earlier post.

Name 6 decent judges who rate Johns ahead of Lewis...

And Lewis won numerous titles - in Queensland (1979, 1984, 1986) - and cleaned up the best NSW had to offer on numerous occasions at State and club level.

No-one can match Lewis's 1984 season in recent times...

7 out of 10 MOM awards in big games.

Wally Lewis, 1984:-

* Captain and winner Brisbane Premiership Wynnum
* Captain and winner Panasonic Cup Final Combined Brisbane (defeating Sydney semi-finalists Souths, Canterbury (Premiers) and Parramatta (Runner up), then Easts in the final) (Man of Series)
* Captain and Winner Queensland 2-1 (2 MOM awards)
* Captain and Winner Australia 3-0 (1 MOM award)

AND he had a 'tash too!

Indeed.

So you're telling us that every Australian Rugby League commentator rates Johns as a better player than Wally Lewis... that's quite a statement

Best British Halfbacks I ever saw were Murphy and Millward. Best Australian Halfbacks I ever saw were Lewis and Sterling.

tbf maybe 1 in ten would pick lewis.

many of the current commentators have said johns is the best ever.

many players ex and current all referred to johns as the best ever.

heck when austraia beat GB by 40 points in sydney years ago the english players were queing up for his autograph

Johns was voted in the Australian and nsw team of the century at half back, voted the number on player in the last 30 years.

Player of the world cup 1995, player of the series 2001.

Three dally m's, one Clive Churchil, 3 mom at origin, 2 golden boots.

Does anyone know how many times he was the dally m half back of the year?

One of the things I have been told about Murph is that he was responsible for a number of rule changes as a result of his using the existing rules to his advantage!

Drop goals, head and feed at scrums, options for penalty kicks.....

I am sure some of our older posters could add some depth to this.

Sterling ?

i have seen them both play, and for me murphy wa head and shoulders above johns.

Unfortunately, DM, you show the same bias Lewis confronted from Sydney during his entire career. The man was booed by the Sydney crowd as Australian captain in 1984...

It is only with some hindsight - and the lack of fear now that he is long finished playing - that he began to receive the accolades from Sydney. An immortal (which Johns is still not); 5/8th in the Australian Team of the Century etc.

During Lewis's career, Sydney scribes opined that Sterling was a better player. This analysis was shown to be wrong by the celebratory events during the 2008 Centenary in Australia. Again, a long time after the fact...

Johns - 5 years! Lewis was the dominant player in the world for over a decade.

Lewis was still the best player in the world circa 1988-1989, in the Sydney competition: the heavy rep seasons took their toll on the Broncos in this period (1988 Lions tour + Centenary games; 1989 full Kangaroo Tour to NZ mid-year).

He was heavily injured (numerous things including breaks) during 1990.

And he was at the end of a long career that began in First Grade in 1978.

As for competing with injury, Lewis nearly playing out the RLWC Final of 1988 before nearly 50,000 Kiwis in Auckland, with a broken arm, rates fairly highly.

It is patently wrong too.

Name them as I asked for...