They didn't do a very good job then did they

and Cas are playing where this weekend? Oh that's right they're not.

A bit like widnes in the Championship

And yet we have Fax and Sheffield still looking for a GF appearance

They can argue all they want , if their club was in the lower part of the league , they would all be clammering for some SOO players to be brought over , but would take anybody better than they had

4 gf victories, 5 gf appearances, 3cc final appearances, 4 wcc, 2lss, 4GB caps says they did alright, maybe he doesnt pass the the 'Starbug parochial paranoia tall poppy syndrome' test but thankfully there are other ways to measure your quality, like competitions and stuff

You missed out his UFC titles as well

Various Super League winning and one Tri Nations winning coach would disagree with you.

You talk as if they're the same player with just different nationalities. Green's not unproven though, neither is I'Anson. In fact what has been proven so far in in his 30+ first grade appearances is that Green is a capable NRL player with a strong defence, decent kicking game and good decision making. I'Anson on the other hand has looked, at best, out of his depth in many of his.

As for not being prepared to give young unproven British players a chance, what about Welham, Watts, Latus, Taylor, Hodgson, Ratu, Charnley and even your hero I'Anson? You could even include Kirk Netherton, Spavin and Mariano in that list.

What about the NL players we've developed into useful SL players like Murrell, Cockayne & Netherton? What about the big investment we've made in our academy structure both in facilities and players that has yielded some superb results at those levels this year and last? I've seen alot of these lads and believe me there's some super talent there.

Surely signing players like Matt Cook and Scott Wheeldon (both who left their previous clubs because of a preference to overseas players in their respective positions) is giving younger British players the chance instead of average overseas players?

I'm quite happy to admit we're not anywhere near the level of some other SL clubs yet and as I said before, I do think we'll have probably have too many overseas players on the books next year for my liking, but to suggest we don't give young British players the chance and are not interested in doing so is, quite frankly wrong.

He has proven he is an NRL player so well he cant get a regular gig in the NRL and is coming over here to play for a mid-table team.

you are just naming players who have pulled on a shirt once or twice, Ratu has made more appearances for Leeds than You, Latus has made a whole 6 appearances, Taylor 4 in two years, Spaven 2. Lets not forget Ratu cant get a game because of Webster and Taylor plays 2nd row, where you have just signed Willie Mason to go with Galea and Newton, and Spaven is a halfback where you have just signed Blake Green to go with Michael Dobson.
Spaven is 20 he isnt going to benefit from a 23year old Aussie reject coming in and taking his place, if he is going to make it he needs games now in the season he turned 20 Rob Burrow had 41 appearances, Danny Mcguire had 39, Sam Tomkins 50, Kyle Eastmond 50, Luke Robinson 43, Im sure you get the picture compared to Scott Spavens 2.

Mariano is 23 with 3 substitute appearances to his name, if thats a player you are giving a chance to, i dread to see one being held back

Murrell was at Leeds, Netherton played in SL for both Leeds and London. So that leaves Cockayne who played for you in the NLs, so well done in having NL1 players in NL1.
Matt Cook had played almost 70 SL games when he signed for you, he wasnt an untested youngster, he was a bradford first team player, and he wasnt shipped out because of a reliance on overseas players, Bradford have 3 british 2nd rowers, 2 of them their own youngsters who were better prospects. And Scott Wheeldon had played 57 games before he signed for you, he was a super league player not a youngster you have unearthed, you will be claiming Vella next.

so then do it. Give Spaven a chance now instead of giving an unproven Australian a chance, give Taylor a chance instead of getting a third overseas 2nd rower in

I'll agree that I think Lauaki has been average and not a great example of overseas recruitment but Sam Moa is not a fat waste of space, you clearly haven't seen him play very often this season. He has been an excellent signing for us this year.

You're missing the point. You can't just play players every week because they're British; they have to be good enough as well. You compare the likes of Spavin and I'Anson to Eastmond and Robinson like "give em a shirt and they'll be as good". That is absolute cobblers and you know it.

We've been without centres for ages so Ratu would've played most of the year if he'd been fit. He might have got a better go at Leeds had it not been for Brett Delaney.

Yeah Murrell was at Leeds, I'm not claiming him as an academy product, just a good British NL player who's become a SL player whilst at a club who apparently don't give Brits a go

Netherton did play for Leeds, in fact he "pulled on a shirt once or twice"....you see where I'm going with this??

The point I was making was Rovers do give Brits a go, but you need to grasp the fact that they have to be of a certain ability first.

So then go out and find a prospect better than Spaven. It is you who is missing the point that these players dont fall out of the sky, SL quality players arent magicked into existence, they are trained, scouted, developed and coached to become SL quality players. That isnt happening at HKR, we can see this because you arent going out and scouting, training, developing and coaching players to be SL players, you are picking up players Scouted, trained, developed and coached in the NRL because it is easier.

Spaven was your example of a player you are bringing through, you cant then say he doesnt get games because he isnt good enough.

Either you are bringing him through and at this stage of his development that means first team games, or you arent because he isnt good enough.

And if those players arent good enough, thats your problem, go out scout, train, develop and coach better ones, just stop taking the easy option and have the aussies do it for you.

He wouldnt, he would have been behind Smith, Ablett, and Watkins. Ratu was still given more of a chance as the 4th best english centre prospect at Leeds than he has at HKR.