9/10 for ignorance.

With England also playing Cumbria will this actually count as a international type match? TBH I would have preferred them to play Wales

Should be playing Samoa, Tonga or Fiji.

This where I'd have played the games:
2010 Four Nations fixture schedule:
Saturday 23 October - New Zealand v England (Perth
Sunday 24 October - Australia v Papua New Guinea (Nth Queensland
Saturday 30 October - New Zealand v Papua New Guinea (Auckland
Sunday 31 October - Australia v England, (Melbourne
Saturday 6 November - England v Papua New Guinea (Port Moresby
Saturday 6 November - New Zealand v Australia (Sydney
Saturday 13 November - Four Nations Final (Brisbane

Only one game in Perth?

Quote: roughyedspud "i was in townsville and while it was'nt the greatest performance we were never in danger of losing it... like i said on the VT...we could beat NZ and PNG but get flogged by OZ in the 4 nations and idiots like you will still say NZ are better than us and PNG were unlucky'" Not sure about that. [i"At the 2008 World Cup, scratchy England almost suffered defeat against unfancied Papua New Guinea in their opening game while France troubled them further in the first fixture of last year's Four Nations at Doncaster. "We've entered competitions in the last two years and not really performed in our first game," said McNamara. "We were probably a little fortunate to end up on the right side of the scoreboard and want to iron out those issues"[/i The great one was not as confident as you. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-le ... 6567590.jp

Quote: roughyedspud "i was in townsville and while it was'nt the greatest performance we were never in danger of losing it... like i said on the VT...we could beat NZ and PNG but get flogged by OZ in the 4 nations and idiots like you will still say NZ are better than us and PNG were unlucky'" Not sure about that. [i"At the 2008 World Cup, scratchy England almost suffered defeat against unfancied Papua New Guinea in their opening game while France troubled them further in the first fixture of last year's Four Nations at Doncaster. "We've entered competitions in the last two years and not really performed in our first game," said McNamara. "We were probably a little fortunate to end up on the right side of the scoreboard and want to iron out those issues"[/i The great one was not as confident as you. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-le ... 6567590.jp

2nd half v PNG scored 4 tries conceded 1

2nd half v france scored 5 tries conceded 0


yeah i can see how we nearly lost both...


like i said we where never really in danger of losing either game

PNG have drafted in Hull KRs Billy Mallinson to whip the PNG players into shape, in his interview in the local paper he says the language barrier was a bit of a problem, and he couldnt believe that some of the players hadnt lifted weights before either, amazing when you think how big the PNG lads are.
I reckon they could give us a shock tbh, but there downfall could be Sir Stanley Genes lack of coaching experience though.

I don't share the feelings of negativity about Steve Mc, OK he's unproven but isn't every new National coach when they first get the job.

His coaching record at the Bulls is average but come on he was offered the $hitty end of the stick a real poisoned chalice of an opportunity and I doubt the combined forces of Noble/Elliott and Smith would have fared any better than McNamara.

Whoever said that you had to be a proven domestic coach to cut it at international level anyway, Mal Reilly wasn’t, neither was Ellery Hanley and on the other side of the argument you could look at Fabio Capello's abject failure at International level after being almost peerless domestically. You could also look at the failures of David Waite and Tony Smith who both had very good coaching successes before becoming our National coach.

Maybe Steve McNamara will find his niche as an international coach, he's certainly spent much of his career as a player and coach mixing with and learning from some very good coaches.

Maybe he'll be a nightmare and England will get flogged but I like the things that S.McN has said and done so far with the exception of Gleeson’s exclusion but even that shows strength of conviction which might auger well.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I see differently

widdop at fullback, sam t and brown in the halves, griffin starts at prop fielden and graham not playing.

I'm assuming this one's not on sky?

No ... it's on Sky Sports 1 at 5.30am