I thought this was an Rfl decision thereby not needing the clubs opinions

You posted on TRL you thought they had abandoned P&R permanently.

The reply you got had to be deleted by the moderator.

Why not just have a proper conversation?

So, what is "wolf grooming" an how will it be attractive to benefit the rest of SL ?

Apparently, all 11 superleague clubs want TWP in SL next season. That is great news

For an individual who doesn't want clubs in Super League from off-shore,the OP does seem mightily obsessed by clubs based off-shore.

I'm quite surprised the individual club owners from along the M62 haven't been quoted;as yet.

Don't those individuals dictate to Elstone and the governing bodies?

These off-shore clubs seem to attract wealthy people.

Have Hull KR got a new owner,yet?

Must be a reason why wealthy folk find these off-shore clubs so attractive.

Perhaps they just attract supporters who enjoy the sport...

You are a bar pot for a start Hull kr one of the 11 will not want them back that’s for sure

WUM

Quote: Tigerade "So, what is "wolf grooming" an how will it be attractive to benefit the rest of SL ?'" just picked up your question amongst the usual unpleasant trolling.......... https://www.torontowolfpack.com/toronto ... -strength/ This nonsense is a re-run of the CBD Oil TWP were promoting (as above) a couple of years ago and boasting it would make a fortune. It appears the potential new owner (from part owner) is offering a major sponsorship to Superleague (which they don't have only some mushy peas) where they can become the "Toronto Snake Oil Superleague" in some sort of an exclusive deal where all the $Millions of profits from that brand will go into the games coffers. You couldn't make it up, it appears Livolsi is actually trolling Superleague I really don't know what is going on here, meanwhile Mr. Beaumont seems to be gearing up for a promotion push, so could Xmas come early for him....Who knows

Quote: Tigerade "So, what is "wolf grooming" an how will it be attractive to benefit the rest of SL ?'" just picked up your question amongst the usual unpleasant trolling.......... https://www.torontowolfpack.com/toronto ... -strength/ This nonsense is a re-run of the CBD Oil TWP were promoting (as above) a couple of years ago and boasting it would make a fortune. It appears the potential new owner (from part owner) is offering a major sponsorship to Superleague (which they don't have only some mushy peas) where they can become the "Toronto Snake Oil Superleague" in some sort of an exclusive deal where all the $Millions of profits from that brand will go into the games coffers. You couldn't make it up, it appears Livolsi is actually trolling Superleague I really don't know what is going on here, meanwhile Mr. Beaumont seems to be gearing up for a promotion push, so could Xmas come early for him....Who knows

So basically his grand plan is to turn SL into some kind of pyramid marketing scheme. Wonderful.

With the events of the past few months' TWP should be cut adrift form SL and there is nothing in their new owners spiel that really gives any confidence that they will last.
The main issue for RL is that running with 11 clubs leaves an imbalance in magic, which corrupts the whole fixture program.

If 4 clubs have already said no to their readmission, it could also mean an 11 - 0 vote ?? (unless of course the other 7 have already said yes ?)

Well that's right Mr. D.

But for some reason the reaction was not to laugh and say goodbye to them on the spot? Instead there's an idea that the majority of the 11 clubs with a vote are in favour of their return, with four clubs vehemently against them.

That idea (of a 7-4 vote in favour of their return) came from Mick Gledhill so it may not have any credibility. Anyway Eamon McManus said some time ago when TWP were leading the Championship...

[i"Toronto is a team of antipodeans and English players owned by an Australian in canada, We would all like to see the game grow there and the club is producing a supporter base which is very good, They (however) have got to start producing players from Canada but they are facing strong competition from Rugby Union. There is already a route to 100 semi professional Union clubs over there (sic). And the climate is a massive problem,for the first quarter of the season they can't play home games. It's very difficult but you can't change the rules of the competition to suit one club"
[/i

We know that SL bosses tend to take it in turns to be spokespersons for Superleaue, so I don't think for a second this was McManus's personal view. More a reflection of the collective SL view.I also don't think Brian Carney giving McDermott a very hard time tonight was his own particular point of view, as at the time of the interview SKY were lining his pocket to do their bidding.

But yes the idea that they are coming back on a "pyramid marketing scheme" appears absurd especially as TWP have tried this tactic before when they were marketing Cannabis oil that obviously didn't bring in the $Millions....

I like to think Derek Beaumont investing heavily in Leigh is a real signal of where this is going.............

Great to hear from and speak to you.......

Quote: Derwent "So basically his grand plan is to turn SL into some kind of pyramid marketing scheme. Wonderful.'" https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wolfpa ... 542qn.html Check this out Mr. D. more wonderment

Quote: Derwent "So basically his grand plan is to turn SL into some kind of pyramid marketing scheme. Wonderful.'" https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wolfpa ... 542qn.html Check this out Mr. D. more wonderment

Well in line with how the SL clubs tend to work, argue in private and agree in public then it may well be you are right when the "final vote" is taken that it will be 11-0.....but

I have the cuttings from the vote for Blake Solly's brave new world of the last SKY deal and the major changes to the league set up. Martyn Sadler stated the vote was a narrow 7-6 for it. Of the 14 SL clubs 13 voted, with Catalans abstaining due to their "guest status".

Once the vote was won they discussed the matter a bit further, then voted again and the vote was 10-1. Again Les Catalans abstained as guests BUT Marwan Koukash decided to break protocol and still vote against the deal. So if effectively if in private the TWP vote has been split then they will want to show a unanimous and we are all in harmony face to the public.

But who knows if Gledhill is right, four clubs are quoted as over our dead bodies doesn't mean the other clubs are 100% for it.........

Livolsi - I[i own a brand that I believe will help monetise the league and the team. It's called Wolf Grooming, we're going to launch next year in the UK and this brand itself will help catapult it into a marketing machine.

“From my perspective, grooming brands are a sector of the marketplace that's worth a lot of money, a lot more than a Super League team would go for. I believe that by taking the brand itself, building a story around the guys, the players and injecting that into the core of what Super League is today, will help it succeed.”[/i

Anybody care to look up the synonyms for a "Wolf" and what that would say about men using "Wolf Grooming"?

Any seriously decent modern guy would not buy into such a brand. I doubt if any decent retailer would stock it. How can our game that supports and nurtures women's rugby league possibly support that?

Is this man just having a laugh. just like Argylle was with his "I'm skint" rubbish??