Not at all, but they do give a chance to the young lads. Something Hull KR arent doing because their places are filled with overseas players.



so why has he offered Webster another contract if he believes Ratu is able to not only act as a back but may be a first choice centre? after all you have said you were happy with Cockayne there. Why do you need 5 players for that position all over the age of 22, because you are also claiming you are 'bringing through' 'developing' etc etc Mariano who is 23.



like?

Do Leeds only have 17 players in their SL squad? I told you some time back Smokey, let it go, you're getting nowhere.

no, but we dont have 5 players over the age of 23 covering 2 centre positions and pretend we are 'giving young playres a shot' like Hull Kingston Australia



Is this your attempt to slink away? its usually a much funnier blow up, im disappointed

Only reminding your good self of one of your arguments for expansion



" We have reached the limit of the number of RL athletes the heartlands can produce "

Ah, you're saying Leeds have in their SL squad a youngster to cover every position on the pitch. I'm impressed with the Hull Kingston Australia how long has it taken to steal that from Gutterfax? Well done you.

ill repeat the question to you. Are Hull KR limited to employing players from only one part of the country?



and have you avoided posting the link so you dont embarress Bill as it confirms at i was speaking within the context of the game needing between 80 and 100 new English players to cover two brand new heartland teams and replace the players retiring and the quota falling? Something both you and Bill argued wouldnt really be a problem. He has soon changed his tune hasnt he?

Yes.

Being as it's a SL problem , I couldn't give a stuff either way , just reminding you of previous posts , you going senile an all

Not at all, i stand by what I said, just wanted to make sure we kept the context in mind

How come 30 something johnny foreigners like Buderous, Leuluai and Lauitiiti get a game then?



Oh hang on!!!!



Mike Ratu Leeds Rhinos 2004-2009 (5 years) 6 SL games.



Mike Ratu Hull KR 2010 (1 year) 5 SL games.



I see your point now Smokey, yes it's all very clear.

you missed out Ash Gibson 4 years, 32 SL games

Kallum Watkins 3 Years 21 SL games

+

Mike Ratu 6 SL Games



plus Gibson suffered a year out because of injury, Watkins played 5 of the first 6 games this year before suffering a season ending injury (as well as being 4 years younger than Ratu)



and 2 of the years you have included for Ratu he was only a scholarship player (what with him only being 16 in 2004) and another he spent on loan at Halifax.



Danny Buderus was a current Australian international when signed, He is a Dally M player of the year, NSW Captain (record breaking amount of times no less)

But in back up we have Paul McShane



Ali Lauittiiti an NZ international and the current Dally M second rower of the year when signed.

But in back up we have Chris Clarkson and Jay Pitts



Kylie Lueluai i have already addressed a couple of pages back

but in back up we have Luke Ambler, Burgess and Amor.

So what your saying now is...just because you're English does not guarantee you a start in SL, there are other factors which will determine if you are selected which explains why Gibson and Watkins played far more SL games while Ratu was at Leeds. At last we are in agreement Smokey.



We got there in the end eh?