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| Quote: NickyKiss "Watching Cudjoe on Thursday against Leeds gave me cold sweats! Not only at the thought of him playing for England again but how he ever did in the first place. He just doesn't look for his winger! The amount of times he could get his winger in half a yard yet decides to shuffle in with the ball himself is shocking.
Average winger IMO.'"
I take it you are party to Andersons game plans??? Please do share.
If you look at sarginson and Cudjoes stats they are pretty similar - but Leroy gets through twice as much defensive work. He is a right centre though- not a left.
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| Percival is the best young centre in the country by a mile. Only Watkins betters him and that won't be for long.
Watkins has 8 tries and 5 assists in 12 matches.
For those in a differing universe that believe Sarginson is even worthy of being mentioned in the same breath, he has 3 tries and 5 assists in 10.
Percival has 4 tries and 6 assists in 6 games. Basically, he's scored more and created more than Sarginson in a third fewer matches. Had he been fit all season, he'd comfortably be the most creative centre in the league (only Gelling betters him with 8 assists) and probably top scoring centre as well.
Wardle doesn't have the passing game to be an international centre IMO.
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| Ooh is this one of those threads where everyone says that a centre that plays for their club is the best and all others are rubbish?
I love these.
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| They are always productive and based on evidence aren't they
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| this particular player is better than this particular player because this particular players team has won more games than the other particular player's team.
always amuses me how people use individual players teams' success/lack of as a barometer of how good that player is.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Ooh is this one of those threads where everyone says that a centre that plays for their club is the best and all others are rubbish?
I love these.'"
It's both that, and one of those where people use try and assist stats to determine who the better player is.
They're even more fun.
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| Does anyone know how Crooks is getting on this season, has he played any 1st team grade or is he stuck in the nsw cup?
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "It's both that, and one of those where people use try and assist stats to determine who the better player is.
They're even more fun.'"
What else would you like to know ?
Percival is the most natural centre this country has produced in years. He runs a centre's line naturally, which immediately puts him well beyond the likes of Sarginson. He has impeccable hands and has improved massively defensively, to the point where he's aggressive and an impact maker in defence. I'd say what separates him are his lines and handling, which are so natural it's unusual.
When he got injured, both he and his winger were top of the list for tries; since he's been hurt, Saints' right winger has barely had a touch. In the 110 minutes since he's back, our right winger has three tries and Percival one. He's also the quickest player at the club and is 20 years old. He's an incredible young talent, alongside Graham and Cunningham the best I've seen Saints produce.
Him and Watkins will be England's centres for years. I only hope we can keep Percival out of the hands of the NRL, already rumours Souths want him.
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| Quote: SLS "What else would you like to know ?
Percival is the most natural centre this country has produced in years. He runs a centre's line naturally, which immediately puts him well beyond the likes of Sarginson. He has impeccable hands and has improved massively defensively, to the point where he's aggressive and an impact maker in defence. I'd say what separates him are his lines and handling, which are so natural it's unusual.
When he got injured, both he and his winger were top of the list for tries; since he's been hurt, Saints' right winger has barely had a touch. In the 110 minutes since he's back, our right winger has three tries and Percival one. He's also the quickest player at the club and is 20 years old. He's an incredible young talent, alongside Graham and Cunningham the best I've seen Saints produce.
Him and Watkins will be England's centres for years. I only hope we can keep Percival out of the hands of the NRL, already rumours Souths want him.'"
Thats a big talk up of the lad,he has struck me as a capable player but can't say the little i have seen of him i have thought of the possibility he could become world class however, i admit you see him week to week so have a more educated opinion. I do hope it comes to fruition, we have been starved of top centres for too long.
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| i would agree about Percival, looks decent when i've seen him but nothing special, certainly no better than Wardle, Sarginson etc.
but who am i to argue with a saints fan on the subject?
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| Quote: SLS " In the 110 minutes since he's back, our right winger has three tries and Percival one. '"
were those 110 minutes against the 2 teams at the bottom of the table?
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| Quote: meast "this particular player is better than this particular player because this particular players team has won more games than the other particular player's team.
always amuses me how people use individual players teams' success/lack of as a barometer of how good that player is.'"
Isn't that what Macnamara does????
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| Not really jools he didn't pick any player from the champions for the 4 nations did he?
Usually picks from Leeds Wigan and wire
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| Quote: SLS "He runs a centre's line naturally, which immediately puts him well beyond the likes of Sarginson.'"
What..? Haha
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| Percival is a lovely, lovely centre. He's so effortlessly good and his role, finding that natural line outside his man to disrupt the defence and his hand in close quarters are outstanding.
You may find that Saints fans won't argue his qualities till we're blue in the face, just because we are so enamoured with his talents and so convinced of his class. We don't care if others wont admit/realise/recognise it.
I'd love to snap up Wardle to play the other side, though.
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