I think he's a better hooker than Mortimer and I think Charnley is a better winger than SKD or Tupou.

Roosters have 2 genuine world class players, SBW and Cordner, but O'Loughlin is better than FPN, Guerra and Aubusson.

Theres some really good players in SL, if you watched without green and gold tinted glasses on you'd realise it.

Well I do watch some Super League and i agree there are some good players but the intensity is on another level, Half of the games are walkovers, a few are contests and a few more are real arm wrestles.
That is the big difference.
You can easily look like a champion when you are carving up Paddock teams that have no defensive structures or even basic technique
Minichiello looked pretty good last year and again for Italy.
You don't rate JWH? he was considered one of the best Forwards in the World last year
Michael Jennings an Australian Test Centre.
Dylan Napa will be the next big thing at Prop.
We shall see.

The Roosters will likely play two wingers rather than just one (some cutting edge RL tactics for you there) so they could play both Charnley and Tuivasa-sheck.

So you may not take Charnley over Tuivasa-Sheck but id definitely take him over someone like Tupou.

Similarly MciLorum is a decent (if a little over-rated by some)hooker, you can debate if you want that you would take Friend over MciLorum, but if you took L’estrange over McIlorum you would be nuts.

And yeah, Cordner, Frank-Paul, JW-H SBW, are quality forwards, Aubusson, Moa, Guerra meh!

If both teams turn up and play to their potential and the Refs have no bearing on the game.
It will be similar to Australia V England in a Final.

40-8 or there about.

Where did I say I didn't rate them? There's some exceptional RL players in the Roosters squad and some good but exceptionally coached, I expect them to go back to back, but to say some would struggle to get an NRL contract is a bit laughable when you consider a few who's got one.

if Luke Burgess and Mike Cooper (amongst others) can get NRL contracts, then the actual standard for getting a deal over there is not actually that high.

Pat Richards has got an NRL contract, and Charnley is a far superior player to him.

Well its good that you have your excuses in early, and you have set the parameters of a contest that 'counts'

Frankly if the Roosters dont prepare well and dont play well then that is entirely on them, they knew this game was happening and they can't get up for it that is a failure in their make up. If they lose because they dont prepare properly or arent motivated then Wigan will be the better team. Preperation and motivation are part of a winning team.

Only losers blame the ref. There are 80 mins to win a game, if you lose it, you lose it because you werent good enough.

No, you said "Roosters have 2 genuine world class players"
How is JWH, or Mini not World class?
They have all done far more than Charnley or Mikey Mac at Test level.

Who is laughable and survived in the NRL for long?
You make get a contract that is match payments only to back yourself and never play a first grade game, How did Worrincy go at the Windsor Wolves?

Going back in time one of the most laughable deals ever was Shaun Edwards, didn't he light it up when he made the Bench.

Cory Paterson, Daniel Holdsworth, Keith Lulia, Remi Casty are other players that got NRL contracts and none of them had better seasons than Wigan players.

Jordan Tansey played first grade for the Roosters, Richie Mathers played first grade for the titans.

Tame Tupou was a first grader and top try scorer for the Broncos when he came over and stunk up the place. Ben Cross played SoO and Leeds decided to go with nothing rather than finish the season with him.

There are some outstanding players in the NRL, some wonderful world class footballers. There is also some dross. Most of the big sides squads would get a gig in the NRL.

What were their contracts worth?
Not all NRL contracts are worth that much.
If you do not play a certain amount of games you just go down to a feeder club and get match payments.

So why say.



All the players I mentioned will start the season in the first team.

they have all just signed first team contracts and if you think any of those players are going to play for match payments your a bit silly.

Seriously the NRL has a lot more depth but their not immortal gods that they don't have average players playing because they have their fair share.

Hang on Smokey...
Name names..... how many first grade games did Tansey and Mathers play before one was found out as a dud and the other finally made the grade did his knee, had is team mates support him and they take off back to the UK.
Ill answer it for you.
Tansey 7 games 3 off the bench, left while still under contract.
Mathers 6 games filling in for the regular fullback that was crocked. left while still under contract