Something like the highly successful treize tournoi?

1 NO

2 all you have done is point out the benifits to Toulouse of being in NL1

Give me some ' real ' benifits to the NL clubs [ nl1 and 2 ] of having Toulouse in NL1 , which will cost the RFL close to a million pounds over the 3 years

If they are not successful I dont even think they will make the 3 years

There is one simple aim for this and that is to prepare them for SL , and if it becomes clear they are not going to make a GF it will all fall apart

Yeah roughly. Probably the best way to do it is have the winners of 5 groups like the NRC ones enter the quarterfinals with Toulouse and the top 2 French League teams, and have two legged quarters, then semis, 1 in each country and a final that alternates. Of course ideally it would work better with Toulouse playing in France as the coming together of two same tier leagues (with top 3 getting in) but there you go. Of course the alternative would be to just put the top 5 from NL1 in and have groups then semis and final, with the NRC for the other 15 NL teams plus the RLCN winner. Of course it could go to a 4:4 split if the Elite improves to be an equal standard with NL1

they get £100k they didnt earn, for a product they struggle to sell, thats more than enough recompense for allowing a french team in the league,

im sure the NL1 clubs would happily give that money back if they didnt want to abide by the RFLs decisions

So you are saying the NL clubs [ both NL 1 and 2 ] are being recompensed for having the French club in NL 1

So you agree that there is no benifit other than the RFL s bribe

Glad you cleared that one up

About time you saw things as they are rather than the RFL 's bull claims

no im saying they are being paid to compete in the RFL competitions, if they dont want to abide the decisions of the RFL then they can find their own competition to play in

the benefit to the clubs in NL1 is the addition of a french side should raise its profile. as part of a long term strategy to bring the league up to a level it becomes a sustainable high profile pro league in its own right. We will see whether or not there is an immediate benefit to the clubs currently in NL1 but regardless, it isnt the clubs place to decide which decisions they will abide by and which they wont,

its about time you got your head out of your ass and understood that RL doesnt start and stop with a minority of heap clubs in the north of england, the vast majority of which have been given more than ample opportunity to compete and havent because of their own incompetance, not everything which is done is done specifically for these clubs, and neither should they be, the game is bigger than these northern backwaters,

So you do work for the RFL after all

no, i just care about the game a huge amount more than these clubs who have all mostly wasted their opportunity and are now trying to stop anyone else having a go

Go on then

Explain how these incompetant heap clubs from the northern backwaters are stopping ' somebody else ' from having a go

i didnt say they were stopping them, i said they were trying

a prime example would the epic leigh franchise dummy spit

When all else fails

Change the subject

Again

So I take it you're including Sheffield in there even though it's as big as Toulouse, or Gateshead who represent the large Tyneside area. Both of which are working their way up from being shafted and will be adversely affected by having to travel to France (it's not just money, the players have to take time off work). Yet if they'd kept Toulouse in France and created a European comp for the top teams of both leagues then both leagues would have gained something and been seen as equal, rather than moving French Elite down from being a feeder league to SL to being a feeder league to NL1 for the sake of one club. Toulouse in NL1 is just a short term fix, they should stay French Elite til they're ready for SL

in what way have i changed the subject? you asked me how they were stopping others having a go, i replied they werent, but they were trying and the epic Leigh dummy spit was a prime example of the kind of thing they were doing

fool

Go on

Explain were the clubs are trying to stop anybody else ' having a go '

Also explain how Leigh have continued thier complaints [ dummy spit in your terms ] for longer than the first week after the decision [ 3 months ago ] ?

You have tried to change the subject of the argument which was myself and Bowes asking what ' tangible ' benifits the existing NL clubs [ Nl 1 and 2 ] will get from the inclusion of Toulouse in NL 1 from next season

Because there are none you have tried to change the subject

have there been a lot of sponsors looking to pay for a european comp between two semi-pro leagues, under a much much bigger european competition we already have (super league)?

Could Toulouse put together that squad, invest in the youth as they have, go pro as they have and prepare for SL like they are by adding a couple a games on to the end of the year?

the french elite and the NLs are and will be a feeder league to SL, thats how it is, the best players from each of these two leagues will both move to the SL clubs, the reason Toulouse is in the NLs is to prepare for SL, its to get more money from sponsors, from TV, which they can then invest in to preparing themselves