Wrong, Ratu was going to be the starting centre in the very first game of the season with Webster at 6, Sadly he did a hamstring in the very last training session before the game.



Once fit he played against Huddersfield in round 3 and suffered a reoccurance of said Hamstring injury.



Again once he had recovered he played in the reserves as by this point he'd played once in ten weeks and had no match fitness, came in for the injured Welham in round 13 and then replaced the injured Webster in rounds 17, 18 and 19 before getting injured again





Oh and congratulations on Murrell, Fox and Watts on making the England train on squad, although no doubt they will have been England players long before Hull KR had anything to do with it no doubt

No, the problem here is you failing to accept that:



1. It is more likely that a former NZ International (still only 26 years old, hardly a has been) might be selected than an unproven player (regardless of nationality) given that you don't get selected for NZ by accident.



2. If Ratu had taken his chance, as Welham did, then it is most likely he would have kept the centre spot (the precendent is there with Welham)



3. With Ratu being injured for large parts of the season he could not have been selected in any event, but had he been fit he would probably have been kept out by Cockayne anyway (who has had another good season for Rovers).



By the way, I thought you wanted Rovers to sign "proven" Aussie/Kiwi players or have you changed your mind on that one too now?

anyone care to list all SL clubs squads (confirmed for 2011) Highlighting the overseas passports on offer......regardless of grandparent ruling.....just where they were born.

Odds are, Quins will have 3.....HKA will have 11

but we are a sham

Start a thread fax.

Fortunately our coach thinks like me, pick the best player available for the job and let the RFL worry about quota rulings. Roll on next year when our band of merry journeymen win us some silverware!

Thing is does it matter , there are no more SL quality players to come from the heartlands , we already are at saturation point , thats why we need to expand our horizons

Anyone who thinks England can't beat Australia in a series because Sl clubs have 10 overseas players rather than 5 or 6 out of a squad of 25 needs to give themselves an uppercut!

As has been discussed elsewhere, it's down to circumstances that you only have 3, not choice.

You said it.

Are Hull KR limited to employing players from only one area of the country?

I have no problem accepting that. In fact i have been saying that. It was you who inferred it was Cockayne and Welham who would be keeping Ratu out and not Webster,

So why have you offered Webster another 2 year deal if you are giving Ratu an opportunity to take the centre spot? Are you really keeping on one of your best paid players as a reserve to Mike Ratue?



so this player you are 'bringing through' 'giving a chance to' etc etc is actually 22 and your 3rd choice centre. And all you arguments regarding how it was injury and not Webster that kept Ratu out you are now admitting is nonsense because you accept he had two players ahead of him in the pecking order, both on long/medium term contracts, including an extension this year for Webster.



what did i say that led you to that conclusion?

No, he had a chance to prove himself in training and in games just the same as anyone else. Do Leeds remove players from a winning team who are playing well just to give a chance to unproven English lads?





During this off season and in pre season games he will start at the same level as everyone else. It's up to him to make it impossible for Morgan not to choose him, not for Morgan to select him because he is English. Just like Welham did.













Virtually everything you've said in this thread.