Manchester is a funny place for this.

I’m a Mancunian, was born at St Mary’s Hospital in the city centre and have lived in Manchester and Trafford at different times in my life. I personally don’t feel I have ever lived outside Manchester at any point even though, strictly speaking, Trafford is not Manchester.

Manchester Trafford and Salford are three different boroughs. Salford its own city. And if you’d asked this question in the 1990s I’d have said that all three were different places. However like what happened in London (and Stoke, and Salford when it swallowed up towns like Swinton), Manchester has outgrown the borders of the boroughs and is a Metropolis, not a city.

In terms of the Global City Index, Manchester encompasses all areas of Greater Manchester except for the Northern towns of the county (Wigan Bolton Bury and Rochdale) as a Metropolis. Salford Trafford Manchester Oldham Tameside and Stockport is one continuous conurbation. Anyone calling any of those areas “Manchester” wouldn’t be wrong apart from in a sense of the outdated made up 1974 borough lines on a map.

So Old Trafford isn’t in Manchester but it is.

As for Bury, due to the geographical nature of the conurbation, it is not part of the Manchester conurbation because of the definite disconnect of Wigan Bolton Bury and Rochdale from that conurbation. However, Bury is part of Greater Manchester, the Greater Manchester Built-up area and the Manchester Statutory City Region (which actually also includes Warrington and Macclesfield as well as other areas). So Manchester Lions? Fine by me!

Does that make sense?

Makes perfect sense to me I live 'here'.

I don't really have a problem with Old Trafford being described as being in Manchester or Swinton for that matter I wasn't arguing from a definitive sense that our pals from Yorkshire seemed to be using post codes as a guide added to the fact that Prestwich is in Bury but physically 'attached' to Salford, the same with Wigan's Tyldesley and half of modern Oldham still think that they are Yorkshire it's definitely not simple.

It's about perception and a sense of where you think that you belong given the boundary commision changes that matter I've always gone for Warrington Lancs rather than Cheshire. Parts of Trafford the Cheshire bits have a WA postcode Altrincham however Sale historically Cheshire (south of the Mersey) has a Manchester code St Helens has a Warrington Code but would always be considered Lancs or Merseyside.....

There's been some pointless arguments on here over the years, but this is right up. I now think it must've been what Jacob Reese-Mogg was reading in parliament the other day.

Bread cakes, always has been, always will be.

Your choice but poor excuse there are plenty of blues fans (i know several season ticket holders at the Emptyhad) who support the Reds, more United of course and a fair few Ammies.

You KNOW its a barm flipping cake you lickle tinker.
And it's certainly not a Teacake. They have currants in.

And i had to edit that 3 times because of the assorted bread products Nazis

I hope the Lions keep going and don't end up going the same way as Blackpool.

a cake wih ale in it and electricity running through, how odd!

it made me chuckle on an otherwise overcast day!

Manchester LIons won't be happening now after all...but the **** really has hit the fan ! https://swintonlionsrlfc.co.uk/news/boa ... IS2sEzhfBA

Manchester LIons won't be happening now after all...but the **** really has hit the fan ! https://swintonlionsrlfc.co.uk/news/boa ... IS2sEzhfBA